Discussion in 'Video Cameras' started by lewisw, Apr 16, 2006.

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    lewisw Guest

    My Canon miniDV is knackered after only 60 hours use (6years old) and am
    considering purchasing a new format. Which will be best; DVD, HDD or

    Many thanks.
    lewisw, Apr 16, 2006
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    G Hardy Guest

    The best one is DVD.

    Perhaps HDD will be better, for your circumstances. (which we don't know).

    Microdrive might be best, too.

    About the only thing we know is that it will get light use, so post a bit
    more info about what you'll be filming, whether you'll be editing, how
    you're planning to "show" your films, etc.
    G Hardy, Apr 16, 2006
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    :::Jerry:::: Guest

    No it will not be, well not if the data will be re compressed, such
    as in editing.
    It would depend on the compression, if it's merely recording the DV
    stream to HDD etc., again if it's compressing [1] the data stream
    there might be issues later.

    [1] yes I know that DV is already compressed at 5:1.
    I *suspect* that the real issue here could well be lack of use /
    improper storage of the camcorder / batteries - the same problem(s)
    could afflict a camcorder of different format just as well. As you
    say, we need to know more...
    :::Jerry::::, Apr 16, 2006
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    lewisw Guest

    I will just be recording the usual stuff, kids, holidays, weddings etc.
    Currently got pinnacle 700 to edit then transfer to DVD. I've seen too many
    miniDV machines go faulty because of the cheaper mechanisms. I'm
    particularly interested in the JVC Everio but can't decide between HDD
    (large capacity) or the microdrive (higher quality, more expensive drives).


    lewisw, Apr 16, 2006
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    G Hardy Guest

    And here's me, thinking that I wouldn't need to put <Sarcasm> and </Sarcasm>
    in my post. :eek:)
    G Hardy, Apr 17, 2006
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    G Hardy Guest


    You don't mention the extent of your edits.

    If you're not planning to edit (more than basic cuts), I'd suggest DVD.

    If you are planning to edit (titles, crossfades, video filters, transitions)
    stick with DV.

    Microdrives are expensive per MB and from personal experience, not very
    reliable. I don't know what you mean by "higher quality" - they are smaller
    and necessarily better made, but that actually translates to less tolerance
    of abuse. Hard drives will be OK until you jolt the camera hard during use.
    G Hardy, Apr 17, 2006
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    :::Jerry:::: Guest

    Obviously you didn't see the other multi-posted (apposed to
    cross-posted) messages in other groups, don't assume anything about
    the OP is my rule of thumb!...
    :::Jerry::::, Apr 17, 2006
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    Tony Morgan Guest

    In message <enL0g.56399$>, G Hardy
    I haven't any personal experience, but I have read the specs/marketing
    blurb, and both HDD and DVD camcorders use either MPEG2 or (in one case
    I recall), DivX [1]. Both MPEG2 and DivX end up of substantially lower
    quality if editing of any kind it done.

    If the aim is to simply connect the camcorder to the TV (HDD) or
    directly play on TV the MPEG2/DivX, then the quality is marginally as
    good as DV, but in any other scenario the quality is lower than with DV.

    [1] The above observation is when the recording is in SP mode, which
    severely reduces the capacity of the recording medium. In
    terms, it is far more likely for the camcorder user to shoot in
    of the extended play modes which severely degrades the quality.
    Tony Morgan, Apr 17, 2006
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    G Hardy Guest

    I struggle keeping on top of the stuff that happens in this group, let alone
    try to deal with others.
    G Hardy, Apr 17, 2006
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    Jelly Guest

    You'll go mad trying to keep up with anything Jerry says either on
    this or his Naturist group.
    Jelly, Apr 21, 2006
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