Camera JPEG engines

Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by Alfred Molon, Nov 18, 2012.

  1. Alfred Molon

    Guest Guest

    you should lube an abacus once every 2 years or every 20,000
    calculations.

    what lube are you using? have you tried some of the newer synthetics? i
    heard that not only do they last longer, but it even increases
    accuracy.
     
    Guest, Nov 26, 2012
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  2. Alfred Molon

    Eric Stevens Guest

    But they can't do anything about the floating point errors.
     
    Eric Stevens, Nov 26, 2012
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  3. Alfred Molon

    Eric Stevens Guest

    Oops. 'Rounding Off' errors.
     
    Eric Stevens, Nov 26, 2012
  4. Alfred Molon

    PeterN Guest

    Now that's funny. I used to have an abacus sitting right on top of my
    computer. (I said it would be used in case of power failure. I actually
    learned ho to use it, but probably could not use one today.
     
    PeterN, Nov 27, 2012
  5. Alfred Molon

    PeterN Guest

    My life is fulfilled now that you are educating me.
    I see you are still avoiding answering my question. Your avoidance is
    glaring.
     
    PeterN, Nov 27, 2012
  6. Alfred Molon

    PeterN Guest

    It's there for anyone to read.
    stop your avoidance.
    It was you who first mentioned using WiFi on a plane to look at YouTube,
    not me.
    It's there for anyone to read.
    stop your avoidance.
    It was you who first mentioned using WiFi on a plane to look at YouTube,
    not me.
    Agreed. but, I never said you should not do it. I did say that in the
    event I was paying somebody to fly on my business, I would dictate the
    terms.
    Just where did I dictate anything to anyone?
    So they can. But if it slows down an Internet connection, the business
    user will become impatient with the slow connection.
    I understand that completely. But, read the intonation of YOUR
    statement. My daughter has produced and directed commercials on cruise
    ships. It sounds glamorous, but it was hard and tension filled work. In
    my work days, my travel sounded good, but I was drained and exhausted,
    on the way home.

    I must be to think you can engage in a rational discussion.
    I obviously was wrong.
    I simply understand English and the implication of words. (Something I
    have been paid very well to do.)
    There are many ways to skin a cat. Please stop acting like an ass. But
    then again, you may not be acting.
    So. Whats your point? In 25 words or less.
    And the email can't wait for an hour or two? It's called parsing your
    work. You do those things that don't require an Internet connection,
    when there is none available. And you use it when it becomes available.
    Are you telling me that you never sent an email you wished you could
    have withdrawn?


    So what is the actual percentage, according to you? I have not seen a
    specific percentage. All I hear is a lot of doubletalk and bullshit. Hey
    man, don't try to bullshit me. I've been to a dance or two in my life.
     
    PeterN, Nov 27, 2012
  7. Alfred Molon

    Guest Guest

    and it was you who is intentionally taking it out of context and
    distorting what i said.

    i never said a business traveler would spend their time watching
    youtube or other frivolous activities.
    depends what he's doing and the available bandwidth. if the business
    traveler is sending an email, he likely won't even notice if others are
    watching youtube.
    it could be 6-7 hours, even longer.
    for some people, their work can only be done on the internet.
    irrelevant. that can happen anywhere.
    the percentage of wifi equipped planes out of all planes flying is
    irrelevant.

    what matters is how many wifi equipped planes are in a given airline's
    fleet, and more importantly, on a given route.

    if someone wants wifi, they can pick an airline that offers it and be
    virtually guaranteed of having it (short of mechanical issues).
     
    Guest, Nov 29, 2012
  8. The A77 has an extra higher quality jpeg mode lacking in the A65. I
    assumed that wasn't what you got along with the RAW-JPEG option
    because that was the simplest insterpretation of the not quite
    specific manual and gave the simplest software equivalence between the
    two cameras. But I could be wrong. I'll have to think of a good
    simple practical test to find out which kind of JPEG accompanies RAW
    in the A77.
     
    Chris Malcolm, Nov 29, 2012
  9. Did you convert to Aftershot Pro when Corel bought Bibble?
     
    Chris Malcolm, Nov 29, 2012
  10. Alfred Molon

    PeterN Guest

    Six or seven hours on email? Must be a very important traveler.
    Important enough to have his own plane.

    So since we agree it can happen anywhere, you must agree that a delay in
    sending can be a good thing.
    It is quite relevant to YOUR point.
    Your words say, "plus, taking a laptop on board means you can use it on
    the plane during the flight, which is very likely to have wifi."

    And when I questioned your use of the term; :very likely." you tried to
    perform all kinds of dances, to avoid answering the question. Obviously,
    you cannot explain, or you used it in an intellectually dishonest fashion.

    You don't seem to understand that i am not against WiFi on planes. I
    cannot understand your obsession with it. Perhaps if you were more
    specific and honest in your logic, we would understand your point.
     
    PeterN, Nov 29, 2012
  11. Alfred Molon

    PeterN Guest

    I didn't realize the extent of that potential tragedy, which makes in
    flight an absolute necessity.
    Reality alert.

    I am not obsessed, dammit! I am not obsessed, dammit! I am not obsessed,
    dammit! I am not obsessed, dammit! ......

    You snip pertinent information, and still have not answered my question.
    But, OTOH, you have indeed answered it.

    BTW I am basically retired. You are not, you sure seem have a lot of
    time to read and answer the news groups. But that's not my problem.
    Thankfully, you don't work for me, or any business in which I am, or
    have been involved.


    BYE.
     
    PeterN, Nov 29, 2012
  12. Alfred Molon

    Guest Guest

    not 6-7 hours on email.

    it's 6-7 hours (or more) without wifi, plus additional pre-departure
    and post-arrival times. if the person is making a connection or there
    are flight delays, it could be even longer.
    it's not an obsession and there's nothing dishonest.

    having wifi is useful on a long flight for a wide variety of reasons.

    the fact you can't understand that is not my problem.
     
    Guest, Nov 29, 2012
  13. I did the same shot with extra-fine jpeg quality and RAW plus jpeg at
    ISO 100 (i.e. very little noise to become confused with detail by the
    jpeg compressor). The extra fine jpeg file was about 50% larger than
    the jpeg from the RAW plus jpeg. I conclude that extra-fine is as I
    suspected an extra level of jpeg quality that you don't get with the
    RAW plus jpeg option.
     
    Chris Malcolm, Dec 9, 2012
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