Camera sales dropping, even DSLRs are hit

Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by Alfred Molon, Feb 4, 2014.

  1. Alfred Molon

    Alfred Molon Guest

    In 2013 Japanese companies sold 63 million cameras, 40% less than in 2012.
    Sales of compact cameras dropped from 78 million in 2012 to 46 million in 2013.
    17 million interchangeable lens cameras (DSLR, mirrorless) were sold in 2013,
    15% less than in 2012.
     
    Alfred Molon, Feb 4, 2014
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  2. Alfred Molon

    me Guest


    Nothing new. The market is saturated and many of the lower end users
    has been taken over by cell phones.
     
    me, Feb 4, 2014
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  3. Alfred Molon

    me Guest


    Nothing new. The market is saturated and many of the lower end users
    has been taken over by cell phones.

    Pulled the trigger too quickly. I shot my D200/D300 almost daily. I
    started with a D70 and bought the D200 and D300 within 6 months of
    introduction. I might do so for a "real" D300 replacement, but where
    is it? D7100 doesn't make the grade for my uses though I get tempted
    to look at it again every other month.
     
    me, Feb 4, 2014
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  4. Alfred Molon

    Guest Guest

    one word: smartphones.
     
    Guest, Feb 4, 2014
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  5. Alfred Molon

    Savageduck Guest

    If you are a D300/D300S shooter and do not have a need to move to a FF
    camera I would wait for the proposed and delayed D400. For now I am
    still happy with my D300S as it does all I want with a good frame rate
    and reasonable resolution.
    <
    http://photographylife.com/nikon-d4...&utm_campaign=nikon-d400-is-definitely-coming
     
    Savageduck, Feb 4, 2014
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  6. Alfred Molon

    PeterN Guest

    I am quite happy with my D800, and don.t miss the rapid fire as much as
    I thought I might. My D300 suddenly died, and I will see what Nikon
    repair says. This time of year I can wait to see if the D400 prediction
    is accurate. I see he did give himself a large hedge, but we are already
    into the 1st Qtr of 2014.
     
    PeterN, Feb 4, 2014
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  7. Alfred Molon

    Savageduck Guest

    I find the high frame rate (with the added boost from having the MB-D10
    battery-grip) very useful at air shows, motor sports events, and other
    situations where capturing an action sequence can get a few useful
    images.

    Then when I shoot HDR exposure brackets I am able to get a 5 shot
    bracket in 3/4 of a second, and a 7 shot bracket in just under a
    second, depending on light conditions.

    So for now I will stick with the D300S, it has more work I can get out
    of it. What i have been considering as a supplement to my DSLR is the
    Fujifilm X-Pro1 as an APS-C upgrade to my trusty G11.
    < http://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujifilm_x_pro1/ >
     
    Savageduck, Feb 4, 2014
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  8. Alfred Molon

    me Guest

    I've relooked at the D800 and 7100 during our recent snow days, as
    both my D200 and D300 suffer from a variety of minor ailments. The
    additional size and weight of the D800 is a real turnoff in addition
    to the frame rate/buffer limits. The D300+TC-15+200-400 f/4 VR is
    already at my limit to walk around with.
     
    me, Feb 4, 2014
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  9. Alfred Molon

    Tim Conway Guest

    I loved my Nikon D200 (until I had to sell it for food. ha ha)... I see no
    cell phone that can compete. I cannot take a shot with my cellphone as
    accurately and "professionally" as I could with my D200. Did I say quickly?
    Maybe I'm just getting old, but you can't beat a real camera.
     
    Tim Conway, Feb 4, 2014
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  10. Alfred Molon

    Savageduck Guest

    Yup!
     
    Savageduck, Feb 4, 2014
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  11. Alfred Molon

    Me Guest

    And this is what makes me wonder if Nikon have lost their marbles.
    I also still use a D300 which is adequate for most/all of my
    general/action shooting needs, but I'd love to supplement this with a
    lightweight APS-C (or even Fx) mirrorless body.
    I'm never going to buy a D610/800 (nor heaven forbid a Df) or similar -
    FX SLR system weight is too much for me - APS-c is great. I don't want
    to buy into another system (even if some Nikkor lenses can be mounted
    and used in MF mode). If I did buy into another system, then apart from
    Nikon not getting the sale for that body, they run the risk that I dump
    their brand completely and forever. I don't think a "D400" dslr is the
    answer for me - even if it is overdue and desired by others. I don't
    think I'm the only one feeling this way.
     
    Me, Feb 4, 2014
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  12. Alfred Molon

    Savageduck Guest

    I don't really need an upgrade of any sort right now, the 12MP of the
    D300S meets my needs and I can't see the chase to the file size
    produced by the D800. 12-24MP is the range which best suits me. That is
    the sensible part of my brain talking to me. Then there is the part
    which whispers to suggest I might like to have one of those newer
    generation sensors, and in APS-C that is what the D7100 provides, but
    it lacks many of the features I love in the D300S. Just buying the
    newer camera DX or FX isn't going to make me a better photographer. I
    would seriously consider a "D400" if it were similar enough to the
    D300S in features with the sensor upgrade.

    Meanwhile, I had thought of the Nikon 1AW, but that has a smaller than
    APS-C sensor, a limited range of lenses, and no viewfinder.
    With the X-Pro1 you have the best of both worlds with a hybrid OVF/EVF,
    a developing range of lenses along with great possibilities when you
    add the M mount adaptor into the mix, all with a 16.3MP APS-C sensor.
     
    Savageduck, Feb 5, 2014
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  13. Alfred Molon

    PeterN Guest

    I wrestled with the question for months, and don't regret my decision.
    The 200-400 is too heavy for me to carry, even with the D300. The D800
    will autofocus at f8 and tracks fairly well with the 70-200 with the TC
    14. I recently looked at the new Tamron 150-600, which some of my
    friends are very happy with. But I am not going to hurry.
     
    PeterN, Feb 5, 2014
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  14. Alfred Molon

    PeterN Guest

    I tried using my cell phone at a jumping competition. The slow shutter
    was driving me nuts.
     
    PeterN, Feb 5, 2014
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  15. Alfred Molon

    PeterN Guest

    Since my D300 died I find I am happy with only one camera. But The
    desirefor abackup, may lead to a decision when the D400 comes out.
     
    PeterN, Feb 5, 2014
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  16. Alfred Molon

    Tony Cooper Guest

    Leave it on the bench. It's probably that extra weight that's not
    allowing you to out-jump the competition.
     
    Tony Cooper, Feb 5, 2014
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  17. Alfred Molon

    RichA Guest

    Lazy people and their iPhones.
     
    RichA, Feb 5, 2014
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  18. Alfred Molon

    Savageduck Guest

    Then you might want to take a look at this:
    < http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2014/01/tamron-150-600-telezoom-shootout >
     
    Savageduck, Feb 5, 2014
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  19. Alfred Molon

    Martin Brown Guest

    And film sales have dropped even more. Basically smart and not so smart
    phones have totally cannibalised the low end point and shoot market.

    Everyone that wants a high end digital camera has already got one or two
    and they are sufficiently reliable and high performing that there is no
    compelling reason to go and buy a new one with 10% more pixels.

    (unless you are one of those mint boxed camera collectors)
     
    Martin Brown, Feb 5, 2014
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    PeterN Guest

    PeterN, Feb 5, 2014
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