Can I get rid of the paging "no paging file" message on windows?

Discussion in 'Photoshop Tutorials' started by UnTruth, Feb 17, 2005.

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    UnTruth Guest

    I have 2GB on my laptop and do not need a paging file. Is there a way
    to kill the no paging file message when CS starts?
     
    UnTruth, Feb 17, 2005
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    Hecate Guest

    It doesn't matter if you had twice as much memory - you need a paging
    file.
     
    Hecate, Feb 18, 2005
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    jjs Guest

    I am so tempted to make a RAM disc using all the cheap memory that's
    available - but by wiring the RAM chip set to a disc controller so that the
    system sees it as a fixed drive. Would that not be hot or what?
     
    jjs, Feb 18, 2005
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    bugman Guest

    Nope, Don't need and don't want. Laptop hard disks are slower than
    their desktop counterparts. I have been running for years without one
    and have few if any issues. Did my own benchmarks and without a paging
    file my laptop is almost 30% faster over the course of a day.
    Unscientific maybe, but faster defiantly.
     
    bugman, Feb 18, 2005
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    jjs Guest

    Then I guess you had better find a product other than Photoshop.
     
    jjs, Feb 18, 2005
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    Eric Gill Guest

    Like this?

    http://www.silentpcreview.com/article49-page1.html
     
    Eric Gill, Feb 19, 2005
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    jjs Guest

    jjs, Feb 19, 2005
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    Hecate Guest

    And when Photoshop requires the paging file, which it will every time
    you run it...
     
    Hecate, Feb 19, 2005
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    Hecate Guest

    LOL!

    Too much hassle. Of course, when we have 64 bit Win and 16 Gb of
    memory will you be better off with solid state RAM disks? <g>
     
    Hecate, Feb 19, 2005
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    Eric Gill Guest

    ....and come up with a crapload of money.

    But you'd first need to max your box to 4GB and devote the 1.8 or so GB to
    PS it can use.

    Or run WinXP 64 on a MB that can mount a crapload of RAM, and use a soft
    RAMdisk. Probably more cost effective and faster than the Rocket PCI-based
    white elephant anyways.
     
    Eric Gill, Feb 19, 2005
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    Eric Gill Guest

    To be fair, PSCS seems to no longer simply refuse to run without a page
    file, unlike it's predecessors.

    It runs like hell, but it runs. Mr. Cox is determined that we not do that.
     
    Eric Gill, Feb 19, 2005
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    jjs Guest

    I don't know how RAM discs work, but if they emulate a hard drive, then it
    seems unlikely it's as fast as the above. Dunno. But I did have such a setup
    on my XT in 86. I could put the whole C compiling directory tree on it. I
    forget how big it was. Very cool.

    Besides, PS will probably bloat like a beached whale shortly after the 64bit
    word OS is up.
     
    jjs, Feb 19, 2005
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    jjs Guest

    It's likely you will pay for it. :) I work under government grants.
    Okay, we are drifting off-platform but I have 4GB on a G5 and it was my
    understanding that PS does not benefit that much from allocating 100% RAM.
    Frankly, I don't see any difference. Could it be because PS allocates yet
    more disc when you allocate more RAM?
     
    jjs, Feb 19, 2005
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    Eric Gill Guest

    Then your max is either 8 or 16 GB, depending on your motherboard.
    You won't get any. Photoshop will only use about 1.8 GB - the max any 32-
    bit process can use under any current mainstream OS.
    Why don't you set up a RAMDisc for your first scratch disc and see what
    happens?

    The 1GB or so you can probably spare probably won't do much, but you at
    least have the option of adding RAM up to one of those maximums, which
    I'm assuming could be allocated to a RAMdisc (or more than one RAMDisc).
    four or 12 gig would probably show a nice boost.
    It does, but it doesn't make much difference once the file is open. PS
    writes a big file initially but then doesn't access it much until it runs
    short of RAM.
     
    Eric Gill, Feb 19, 2005
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    Hecate Guest

    I wonder if they'll change their minds when we're all running 64 bit
    systems with 16Gb of RAM ? ;-)
     
    Hecate, Feb 20, 2005
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    Eric Gill Guest

    Four to one we won't have the option in the OS by then. Apple has already
    done away with it.

    D'ommage.
     
    Eric Gill, Feb 20, 2005
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    Hecate Guest

    Ah. Removing features to make it "easier".

    Yeah, right.
     
    Hecate, Feb 21, 2005
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    Eric Gill Guest

    I can't see why not. RAMDisc with main system memory eliminates the bus and
    controller you'd need for the Rocket-drive style system you mention.

    <snip>
     
    Eric Gill, Feb 21, 2005
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