Can the iPad improve your photographs?

Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by David Taylor, May 23, 2013.

  1. David Taylor

    David Taylor Guest

    I find that the physical act of using the iPad to take photos seems to
    force you into taking more care over the composition before pressing the
    button than when using a DSLR or bridge camera where you tend to be
    faster, and want to get at least a "banker" photo just in case. At
    least, that's when you can see the iPad screen well enough!

    Perhaps it's just me, but is there anything to be said for being slowed
    down when taking photos? Is it advice we might all follow with some
    benefit to our results? Is it having the large format framing screen
    which makes the difference?
     
    David Taylor, May 23, 2013
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  2. David Taylor

    DanP Guest

    Sure, same holds for film. You have 36 shots, use them wisely and think well.

    DanP
     
    DanP, May 23, 2013
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  3. David Taylor

    Whisky-dave Guest

    For me I find it quick and easy, there's no focusing beam, no bleeping and nothing to setup. It's rather difficult to hold but sometimes that's an advantage because it encourages you to steady yourself. I can also place it within a few inches of my subject mostly my cat without stressing her to much..
    Being so large (I have the retina version of the ipad3) it's pretty easy tosee what you'll get regarding possible distortion due to angles.
    Another nice option is being able to have the lens less than a cm or so from the floor and by altering the ipads position can get many differnt anglesjust by rotating the ipad.

    But I don;t think it can imporve my photos as such unless you're talking about editing other than the basics which are done on the ipad.
    Here's some or most of my ipad photgraphy.


    http://www.flickr.com/photos/whiskydave/sets/72157629917976050/
    Yes I know it's sad but she wants her photo taken honest.
     
    Whisky-dave, May 23, 2013
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  4. David Taylor

    Guest Guest

    Sure, same holds for film. You have 36 shots, use them wisely and think well.[/QUOTE]

    same holds for any camera.
     
    Guest, May 23, 2013
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  5. David Taylor

    Savageduck Guest

    Regardless of the camera you use iPad, SLR, DSLR, view camera, or
    whatever, there is everything to be said for being slowed down. It
    gives you time to think regarding composition, exposure, etc. (not so
    much exposure, etc with the iPad).

    As far as the iPad as a camera goes, it is not any better that many of
    the mobile device cameras available today. Certainly the size, and
    unwieldily awkwardness as a camera is what forces the iPad photographer
    to take advantage of the big display. With that big display one can
    easily compose and visualize the results far easier than with a phone
    or compact camera.

    The important thing is, you find it useful and get results which work for you.

    Personally, I find little use for the camera in my iPad, but I find it
    to be a good way to have a handy portfolio of my DSLR shots.
     
    Savageduck, May 23, 2013
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  6. David Taylor

    Savageduck Guest

    BTW: I strongly recommend any photographer, or anybody with an interest
    in photography who has an iPad, to get the 500px and The Guardian
    "Eyewitness" Apps.

    < https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/500px/id471965292?mt=8 >
    < https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/the-guardian-eyewitness/id363993651?mt=8 >
     
    Savageduck, May 23, 2013
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  7. The factors involved are mostly slowing down, but also seeing better.
    The best pictures I've ever taken were with a 4X5 view camera, where
    just setting up takes perhaps 10 minutes, and taking a picture twice
    that. Also, big pieces of film were never cheap...

    I haven't taken more than a handful of really, really good pictures
    since I got a DSLR. I can't see as well, and as much as I try, I can't
    seem to make myself slow down.
     
    Scott Schuckert, May 23, 2013
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    Eric Stevens Guest

    55 years ago I used to use a 4" x 5" field camera. I had only six
    plates/sheets of film. It took me up to half an hour to compose and
    take a shot. Most of the shots I took were keepers.

    I used to look down with veiled contempt on those 35mm camera users
    who would take 36 shots in the same time, only one or two which miht
    be worth keeping.

    Then I got a 35mm camera myself and although I started carefully I
    soon started to take shots more quickly and found that I too had only
    a few keepers.

    When digital came on the scene I started to look down on those who
    blazed away without much thought as to what they were photographing.

    Then I bought a digital camera. First a Sony 707, then a Nikon D70 and
    now a Nikon D300. Now with the D300 I particularly find that I am
    taking photographs in burst mode and have never reached the card limit
    of several thousand.

    Going back to taking photographs with an iPad, particularly if I can
    mount it on a tripod, would take me back to the peaceful days of the
    field camera and could be expected to vastly improve the proportion of
    keepers.

    I bet I wouldn't use it that way. It would be click, click, click,
    click ...
     
    Eric Stevens, May 23, 2013
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  9. David Taylor

    David Taylor Guest

    On 23/05/2013 17:18, Savageduck wrote:
    []
    Yes, that's certainly very useful. As you will have gathered, it wasn't
    the technical quality of the camera itself, but more the restrictions
    and limitations it places on you because of its size and shape. Having
    been a (D)SLR user most of my life (with some bridge camera and a little
    P&S experience), I was surprised how good the results from the iPad were
    when I /had/ to use it, and was wondering why that might be.

    I use the Guardian Eye-Witness program and very much enjoy the daily
    images, but 500px is new to me so I will play with that. Thanks for the
    pointer.
     
    David Taylor, May 23, 2013
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    Alan Browne Guest

    Except the camera is a tiny sliver of nothing and not all that good
    compared to an ordinary 35mm camera with a 28 or 50mm lens.

    A cheap DLSR with an APS-C sensor and a cheap zoom lens BLOWS AWAY the
    iPad camera.

    But an iPad is a great way to show off a photo collection.
     
    Alan Browne, May 23, 2013
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  11. David Taylor

    Alan Browne Guest

    To me that is the most useful aspect for photographers other than
    perhaps containing manuals, guides and such as well as maps and an
    external GPS (bluetooth) interface to navigate with.
     
    Alan Browne, May 23, 2013
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  12. David Taylor

    Savageduck Guest

    Yup!
    I have a book case of manual & guide PDFs in iBooks on my iPad & iPhone
    making a very handy reference library. I no long have to think about
    where I might have squirreled away a manual. Then I have all the
    navigation and mapping stuff.
    ....and the Netflix & Smithsonian Channel apps, "FlightRadar24" &
    "Flightboard" and the very nice "Sky Guide".

    < https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/smithsonian-channel/id377458454?mt=8 >
    < https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/sky-guide-view-stars-night/id576588894?mt=8 >
     
    Savageduck, May 23, 2013
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    Mort Guest


    Hi,

    I think that part of the equation is a generational difference. I
    started taking pictures many decades ago, when Kodachrome was ISO 12,
    and focus, f-stop, and shutter speed were set manually. I did slides,
    and projected them. Occasionally, I made prints upon request. I find now
    that many younger people prefer on-screen images for viewing and
    e-mailing, and seldom want or make prints. Many smart-phone photos look
    reasonably good on a cellphone screen or even an I-pad screen. However,
    when I occasionally try to print them for friends, then even the images
    from new and highly touted smartphones seem to fall apart at 5x7" prints
    and larger. I usually use a small Canon S-100 digital camera, usually
    set at ISO 200, and get brilliant and sharp enlargements at 8x10" even
    after some cropping. I print them myself. Yes, cellphone pix are handy,
    as are McDonald hamburgers, but some people want something better in the
    way of images. To each his own.

    Regarding aiming and cropping, I usually shoot a bit wider than
    necessary, and then crop a bit in my PC for the final prints.

    Those are my ideas, for my own needs.

    Mort Linder
     
    Mort, May 24, 2013
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  14. David Taylor

    David Taylor Guest

    On 23/05/2013 22:16, Alan Browne wrote:
    []
    Your are right that the sensor in the iPad camera, and its optics, are
    not as good as those in a DSLR, but even so, they are capable of
    producing surprisingly good images both outdoors and indoors. It's the
    picture-taking process with that size and shape of camera I was
    commenting on, not the pixel-peeping quality.
     
    David Taylor, May 24, 2013
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    J. Clarke Guest

    The notion that so and so "blows away" such and such really depends on
    the subject and the target audience.

    If you're shooting wall-sized murals of diamond rings an ipad isn't
    going to cut it. If you're shooting photos of houses to appear in
    column-width newspaper ads it's another story.
     
    J. Clarke, May 24, 2013
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    Mr. Strat Guest

    I would never use an iPad for serious photography. But taking time to
    think about the resulting image has been with us since the beginning of
    photography. Take a view camera out and put the focusing cloth over
    your head. Then figure out your composition while looking at it upside
    down and backwards.
     
    Mr. Strat, May 24, 2013
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  17. Indeed. One of the major uses of my iPad is as an electronic portfolio.
    I don't think I've ever actually used the camera.
     
    Scott Schuckert, May 24, 2013
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  18. Yep, tell that to a sports photographer that can't depend on
    his subjects following a predetermined track. Or when catching
    birds in random flight. (you /said/ 'everything')
    Remove the battery from your camera and use a hand-driven
    generator to charge a capacitor so you get about enough power
    for a single shot. And carry and use a disassembled tripod. :)

    -Wolfgang
     
    Wolfgang Weisselberg, May 24, 2013
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    Alan Browne Guest

    It will provide nice looking photos when the scene is in its sweet spot
    - that sweet spot is very narrow.

    The camera in there does not even warrant pixel peeping. When you have
    a noisy image it will be self evident. When you have a blurry image it
    will be self evident. There is no need to pixel peep at all.

    I take grab shots with my iPhone and it is - at best - an awkward
    process that usually results in some camera movement when depressing the
    on screen shutter or the volume buttons as shutter release. The
    ergonomics of it are not great at all.

    The built in "flash" (a LED) will help out to a couple metres and even
    then the illumination is lost in the corners.

    If you need a walk-around camera there are plenty of good P&S with
    decent enough zoom lenses for under $500 that will produce blow-away
    images compared to the iPad or iPhone.
     
    Alan Browne, May 24, 2013
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  20. David Taylor

    Alan Browne Guest

    It's all about the sweet spot. The iPad has a small sweet spot that
    will produce nice images in those lighting conditions. Get away from
    those lighting conditions and it gets awful. Fast. (I have the iPhone
    4 with a 5 Mpix camera. Does a nice job *if* the lighting conditions
    are good.

    An APC-C DSLR with a cheap zoom doesn't sound so hot - but its
    sweet-spot is far wider in lighting terms than the iPad - consequently
    it blows away the iPad.
     
    Alan Browne, May 24, 2013
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