Canon 10D firmware Update --> 2.0.1

Discussion in 'Canon' started by Ken Chandler, Jan 21, 2004.

  1. Ken Chandler

    Ken Chandler Guest

    from dpreview.com:

    "Canon today posted firmware Version 2.0.1 for the EOS 10D digital SLR. This
    firmware fixes the display of color temperature in playback mode after
    pressing the INFO button, this is clearly a small step update from version
    2.0.0. Updating is very easy, simply drop the firmware update file onto a
    Compact Flash card, insert it into the camera, power on and select 'OK'."

    I've never noticed this problem, but shooting RAW I don't tend to worry too
    much about white balance while shooting.

    Firmware is here:

    http://www.canon.co.jp/Imaging/EOS10D/10D_firmware-e.html

    KC
     
    Ken Chandler, Jan 21, 2004
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  2. Ken Chandler

    Miro Guest

    You do realise that white balance whilst shooting, using filters, preserves
    dynamic range of the colour information. Be it RAW or JPEG, post
    manipulation is not equal to the task.
     
    Miro, Jan 21, 2004
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  3. I agree it's the best way to do it, but unless it's a really critical image,
    it's just too easy to shoot RAW and set WB later.

    I am getting lazy in my old age. :-(
     
    AU Digital Photo Of The Day, Jan 21, 2004
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  4. Ken Chandler

    Scott Howard Guest

    Where do you get this crap from Miro?

    If you're shooting RAW then then white balance setting has _zero_ impact
    on the RAW part of the image (other than being used as the "As Shot" default
    setting in most software). It does effect the embedded jpeg, but if you're
    talking "post manipulation" then you're not using the jpeg for anything
    seriously anyway...

    Scott
     
    Scott Howard, Jan 21, 2004
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  5. What Miro is saying is that the RAW data is captured and then "software
    pushed" to the correct WB, but applying external filters changes the WB at
    capture and removes the need to software push the WB and this avoids any
    data degradation due to that push.
     
    AU Digital Photo Of The Day, Jan 21, 2004
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  6. Ken Chandler

    Miro Guest

    In addition to that, the CCD or CMOS has an optimal exposure temp. The
    sensor is designed to receive light at one optimal Kelvin and this kelvin
    gives the highest dynamic range of the capture.

    Do as one pleases with software and you can NEVER overcome the fact that the
    performance of your sensor is degraded in a large colour shift.

    RAW balance was meant to correct 5% changes and then the marketing team
    decided it was really cool to correct 20% shifts. It just isnt going to
    happen. Detail and definition is lost through degraded colour balance within
    a scene and degraded Dmin and Dmax.

    These physical effects are inherent in the light and the capture. There is
    no software to correct for lost information.
     
    Miro, Jan 22, 2004
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  7. Ken Chandler

    Miro Guest

    Its only crap because you are not aware of the difference.
     
    Miro, Jan 22, 2004
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  8. Ken Chandler

    Miro Guest

    In addition to that, the CCD or CMOS has an optimal exposure temp. The
    sensor is designed to receive light at one optimal Kelvin and this kelvin
    gives the highest dynamic range of the capture.

    Do as one pleases with software and you can NEVER overcome the fact that the
    performance of your sensor is degraded in a large colour shift.

    RAW balance was meant to correct 5% changes and then the marketing team
    decided it was really cool to correct 20% shifts. It just isnt going to
    happen. Detail and definition is lost through degraded colour balance within
    a scene and degraded Dmin and Dmax.

    These physical effects are inherent in the light and the capture. There is
    no software to correct for lost information.
     
    Miro, Jan 22, 2004
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  9. I applied the 2.0.1 update to my 10D this morning and it reset the
    picture counter back to IMG_0001... Anyone know how to reset it back
    up to 6700 where it previously was at? My photo filing system uses
    this number and I like to keep track of the total pictures taken, for
    that future time when the camera goes TU...

    Irritatingly enough, the firmware release notes on theCanon Web site
    make the following claim:
    "In the case of an upgrade from firmware version 1.0.x to 2.0.0, the
    C.Fn (Custom Function) settings and the file numbers of images were
    cleared from the camera. They are not cleared in this version 2.0.1
    firmware update. "

    Thanks,
    - Cecil
     
    CecilWilliams, Jan 22, 2004
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  10. Ken Chandler

    hippy Guest

    Can experts tell the difference, say with two photos, side-by-side?

    hippy
     
    hippy, Jan 22, 2004
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  11. Ken Chandler

    Miro Guest

    It's not rocket science. Take a raw in tungsten, fix it up and take a filter
    corrected image and compare the balance of the image. It just IS NOT the
    same. No need for opinion, just try it.

    If you cant see the difference then I cant hold that against you ....... I
    will just ignore your error.
     
    Miro, Jan 22, 2004
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  12. Cecil,
    If I'm not mistaken, Canon Digital camera look at the number of the last
    photo taken and simply assign the next to the new photo. I've not tried
    this, but if you have a card reader or PC Card adapter so that you can see
    the contents of your CF card, you could try manually changing the number.
    Here's some rough steps off the top of my head.

    1 - Take one photo with your camera if there isn't one already recorded in
    the CF card.
    2 - Put the card into the adapter and open the card as a drive on your
    computer.
    3 - Change the name of the three digits in the directory name to 670, i.e.
    "670CANON".
    4 - Change the name of the photo to the last number you took before the
    firmware upgrade. i.e. "IMG_8033.JPG".
    5 - You might also need to change the number in the CANONMSC directory. The
    CTG file name, and the number within the file.

    As I say, I've not tried this, but if it doesn't work or you have any
    problems, reset the number again. You won't have lost anything.

    Cheers,
    Martin.
     
    Martin Bailey, Jan 25, 2004
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