Canon 30D with 70-200 f2.8 IS USM lens decisions

Discussion in 'Canon' started by Jack, Nov 16, 2006.

  1. Jack

    Jack Guest

    Hi all and informative people,
    Have been trying to make a decision on a DSLR camera/lens to purchase with
    my fairly limited budget..have read many reviews on so many cameras and the
    30D slips into my 'body only' price range but would like a great lens to go
    with it (incase I go for top of the range when I can see my way there) for
    action/motorsport and general photos.
    A friend is a Nikon nut and was swaying my thoughts to say, the Nikon D200
    or D2H but have read how good the CMOS sensor in Canon is compared to the
    CCD in Nikon.

    Any suggestions and help would be very much appreciated:

    Canon 30D ?..can't justify the price of a 5D...yet
    Canon 70-200 f2.8 IS USM lens ?....but is very pricey and is about $1000
    more for the IS compared to non IS...wondering if the IS is worth it.
    Any other lens combos to go with this setup?..wideangle etc.

    or......go for similarily priced Nikon equip.

    Upgrading finally from my beautiful 5 year old Sony DSC-F707 with that magic
    Carl Zeiss lens.
    Cheers and thanks
    Jack
     
    Jack, Nov 16, 2006
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    [BnH] Guest

    Buy it.

    Don't hear from your Nikon nut friend is saying.
    I am a Nikon nut [D1X/H, D2H, S2 Pro] , but always envy the low noise 30D @
    ISO 1600 can produce.
    + if you are bored, just buy some CZ 50 /1.4 T* or 85 / 1.5 T* + lens
    adapter and use it in your Canon :)
     
    [BnH], Nov 16, 2006
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    Kelpie Guest

    When people bang on about Canon not having in-camera anti shake, I remind
    them of Canon's ISO 1600 :)
     
    Kelpie, Nov 16, 2006
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    rmd Guest

    The IS on the 70-200 f2.8 adds a big premium in cost, and weight. The
    lens is pretty fast so I would think it is overkill....depends on what
    you want to shoot i guess.


    rmd
     
    rmd, Nov 16, 2006
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    Barbara Guest

    Indeed!!!
     
    Barbara, Nov 17, 2006
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    HC Guest

    G'day Jack

    The 30D does it for me.....just love it for motor sport and general
    photos. For action photos I use 70-200 f4 L lens, my budget wouldn't
    extend to an f2.8 IS and besides I found it too heavy, although my son
    loves his f2.8 IS and prefers the heavier combo. Another favourite lens
    is a recent purchase of a vintage L lens, 20-35 f2.8 L circa 1989 and in
    immaculate condition.

    Last month my 4yo DGD was 'taking photos' with her non-working P&S that
    resides in her toybox. I quickly grabbed my 30D with 20-35 f2.8L
    attached, selected full auto, hung it around her neck (while holding the
    strap where she couldn't see) and let her take some real photos. To my
    surprise, her results were 23 perfect photos out of 24 taken....the one
    out of focus was someone who moved towards the camera just as she had
    pressed the shutter, with no time for the camera to re-focus. Her
    composition was perfect, although I did crop the images only because of
    the wide lens being used. She was shaking from head to toe with
    excitement as she took these photos.....remember, these were 'the' first
    real photos she's ever taken, she was laughing so much I don't know how
    she held the camera and because it was a spur of the moment decision on
    my part, I didn't even change any settings (other than select Green
    Mode) from when I used it previously.

    This proved to me that we all get too anal about taking the perfect
    shot....me included!! LOL

    Bronwyn ;-)
     
    HC, Nov 17, 2006
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    prep Guest

    If you are doing motor sport, go on the hunt for a good SH 1DII and a
    Sigmonster.

    If you don't have press credential, or the right friends you will be
    way back from the action, and you HAVE to have long FL and big f.

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    prep, Nov 17, 2006
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    Pete D Guest

    Indeed, incamera IS and ISO 800 will do me.
     
    Pete D, Nov 17, 2006
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  9. Jack

    Pete D Guest

    Actually in camera IS and 1600 will do me nicely as well.

    <http://www.slrclub.com/bbs/vx2.php?...=off&select_arrange=headnum&desc=asc&no=9617>
     
    Pete D, Nov 18, 2006
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    Barbara Guest

    Stewth but you've become exceedingly boring.
     
    Barbara, Nov 18, 2006
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  11. Nobody else would.....
     
    Sebastian J. Farquar III, Nov 18, 2006
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    Guest Guest

    Exceedingly boring sounds more interesting than ordinary everyday boring
     
    Guest, Nov 18, 2006
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    Pete D Guest

    Listen to yourself.
     
    Pete D, Nov 18, 2006
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  14. Jack

    Pete D Guest

    Trying to understand what you are trying to say but I seemed to have failed.
     
    Pete D, Nov 18, 2006
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    Barbara Guest

    Heh, I've made 2 posts and neither of them banging on about the same thing.
     
    Barbara, Nov 18, 2006
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    Pete D Guest

    Barbara I am so sorry that you have nothing in your life to be excited
    about, if you don't like my excitment I suggest you killfile me. Goodnight.
     
    Pete D, Nov 18, 2006
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    Barbara Guest

    I suggest you grow a thicker skin.
     
    Barbara, Nov 18, 2006
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    gearsau Guest

    As the NIKON NUT in question, I will always go for NIKON,and who needs
    1600 ISO for action, unless its the night trots !!

    Man, 200 to 400 ISO is all you need for motorsports ...I would like to
    have 100 ISO with the D2H !

    Rgds..........Chuck
     
    gearsau, Nov 18, 2006
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    Mr.T Guest

    *IF* for example, a Canon had the same noise and other performance at 800
    ISO as say a Nikon at 400 ISO, then the difference in cost and weight
    between buying and using an f4 lens instead of an f2.8 lens would certainly
    appeal to many people, other than yourself obviously.

    Note I am not necessarily saying the above is the case, or that there aren't
    depth of field issues that may alter your choices, but in general, ANY
    increase in ISO performance for the same overall noise/resolution/color etc,
    is always a GOOD thing IMO. No way would I want a slower ISO unless it
    really meant better performance, easier just to use an ND filter when
    necessary.

    MrT.
     
    Mr.T, Nov 20, 2006
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  20. Jack

    Jack Guest

    Thanks Paul...was considering a second hand high-range Nikon but got cold
    feet worrying about how much it would have been banged around and if it
    would be back and forward to the service dept.
     
    Jack, Nov 21, 2006
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