Canon 50D?

Discussion in 'Canon' started by Eric Miller, Aug 22, 2008.

  1. Eric Miller

    Eric Miller Guest

    Eric Miller, Aug 22, 2008
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  2. Eric Miller

    Bruce Guest


    There is no suggestion that the 50D will be full frame.

    Therefore, it cannot possibly be a replacement for the 5D.
     
    Bruce, Aug 22, 2008
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  3. This is what Canon Canada have tagged as the 40+ Canon will give formal
    word of these the 7D and the 50D today in Montreal.
     
    Darrell A. Larose, Aug 22, 2008
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  4. Eric Miller

    Eric Miller Guest

    .. . . nor did I claim that it was.

    Eric Miller
    www.dyesscreek.com
     
    Eric Miller, Aug 22, 2008
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  5. Eric Miller

    Bruce Guest


    Then why did you introduce your article with:

    "I figured that a 5D replacement was coming ..."?
     
    Bruce, Aug 22, 2008
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  6. Eric Miller

    John Sheehy Guest

    Why would a camera series *ever* be expected to have a change of sensor
    size? That should require the introduction of a new series. There are
    advantages to all sizes of sensor.

    In order to have a "reach-resolve" better than the 40D, a FF camera would
    need more than 26 MP. If they ended the 1.6 crop with the 40D, and the
    "replacement" had a lower pixel density, that would be a degrade, not an
    upgrade, IMO.



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    John Sheehy, Aug 22, 2008
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  7. Eric Miller

    Eric Miller Guest

    Perhaps a better phrasing would have been, "I expected a 5D replacement
    but here's what we get instead." I guess my diction assumed the
    obviousness of your statement in response.

    Eric Miller
    www.colibrihotsauce.com
     
    Eric Miller, Aug 23, 2008
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  8. This post is off-topic for this newsgroup, rec.photo.equipment.35mm,
    which is concerned with film cameras that use 35mm film, not digital
    cameras that look like 35mm SLRs.

    Please use an appropriate newsgroup for postings on digital cameras. One
    of the following groups would be a good place for such postings:

    rec.photo.digital
    rec.photo.digital.point+shoot
    rec.photo.digital.rangefinder
    rec.photo.digital.slr
    rec.photo.digital.slr-systems

    (Note that the list of groups available to you depends on what your ISP
    or news provider carries, and may differ from this list)


    --
    "In 1964 Barry Goldwater declared: 'Elect me president, and I
    will bomb the cities of Vietnam, defoliate the jungles, herd the
    population into concentration camps and turn the country into a
    wasteland.' But Lyndon Johnson said: 'No! No! No! Don't you dare do
    that. Let ME do it.'"

    - Characterization (paraphrased) of the 1964 Goldwater/Johnson
    presidential race by Professor Irwin Corey, "The World's Foremost
    Authority".
     
    David Nebenzahl, Aug 23, 2008
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  9. Eric Miller

    Bob Guest

    Bob, Aug 23, 2008
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  10. Eric Miller

    SMS Guest

    As someone else pointed out, the charter also mentions "half frame."
    Half frame 35mm was very close is size to APS-C.

    Regardless, many of us have both film and digital bodies, and
    interchange components between them. Even if the charter did restrict
    discussion to film a lot of the posts on equipment are relevant to both
    groups.
     
    SMS, Aug 23, 2008
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  11. [snip charter]

    No, because it was implicit: at the time, the vast majority of cameras
    were film cameras, and 35mm was *implicitly* understood as applying to
    what were once called "miniature" cameras that use 35mm film.


    --
    "In 1964 Barry Goldwater declared: 'Elect me president, and I
    will bomb the cities of Vietnam, defoliate the jungles, herd the
    population into concentration camps and turn the country into a
    wasteland.' But Lyndon Johnson said: 'No! No! No! Don't you dare do
    that. Let ME do it.'"

    - Characterization (paraphrased) of the 1964 Goldwater/Johnson
    presidential race by Professor Irwin Corey, "The World's Foremost
    Authority".
     
    David Nebenzahl, Aug 23, 2008
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  12. But that newfangled stuff isn't called film. Digital sensors != film.


    --
    "In 1964 Barry Goldwater declared: 'Elect me president, and I
    will bomb the cities of Vietnam, defoliate the jungles, herd the
    population into concentration camps and turn the country into a
    wasteland.' But Lyndon Johnson said: 'No! No! No! Don't you dare do
    that. Let ME do it.'"

    - Characterization (paraphrased) of the 1964 Goldwater/Johnson
    presidential race by Professor Irwin Corey, "The World's Foremost
    Authority".
     
    David Nebenzahl, Aug 24, 2008
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  13. As confirmed by Nielsen, right?

    (Nielsen is a big market-share-measuring company for all you non-USAns)


    --
    "In 1964 Barry Goldwater declared: 'Elect me president, and I
    will bomb the cities of Vietnam, defoliate the jungles, herd the
    population into concentration camps and turn the country into a
    wasteland.' But Lyndon Johnson said: 'No! No! No! Don't you dare do
    that. Let ME do it.'"

    - Characterization (paraphrased) of the 1964 Goldwater/Johnson
    presidential race by Professor Irwin Corey, "The World's Foremost
    Authority".
     
    David Nebenzahl, Aug 24, 2008
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  14. Eric Miller

    Robert Coe Guest

    : On 8/21/2008 7:54 PM Eric Miller spake thus:
    :
    : > I figured that a 5D replacement was coming, not that I really care. My
    : > 5D will be with me till it falls apart.
    : >
    : > http://www.bobatkins.com/photography/digital/canon_eos_50D.html
    :
    : This post is off-topic for this newsgroup, rec.photo.equipment.35mm,
    : which is concerned with film cameras that use 35mm film, not digital
    : cameras that look like 35mm SLRs.
    :
    : Please use an appropriate newsgroup for postings on digital cameras. One
    : of the following groups would be a good place for such postings:
    :
    : rec.photo.digital
    : rec.photo.digital.point+shoot
    : rec.photo.digital.rangefinder
    : rec.photo.digital.slr
    : rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
    :
    : (Note that the list of groups available to you depends on what your ISP
    : or news provider carries, and may differ from this list)

    You've told us repeatedly what you think; we don't agree with you; now please
    buzz off.

    If crossposting bothers you so much, go find a newsreader that will mark an
    article read in all other newsgroups when you've read it in one. Such are
    available if you look around. Google is your friend.

    And as I think others have mentioned, three of the five newsgroups in your
    list are not widely distributed.

    Bob
     
    Robert Coe, Aug 24, 2008
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  15. Eric Miller

    Eric Miller Guest

    .. . . and the word "film" isn't in the charter, implicitly or othewise.

    Eric Miller
    www.dyesscreek.com
     
    Eric Miller, Aug 24, 2008
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  16. Eric Miller

    measekite Guest

    One feature I would like to see on all Canon DSLR is an articulating LCD
    like the one of the Canon S5 IS.
     
    measekite, Aug 24, 2008
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  17. Eric Miller

    SMS Guest

    Indeed, that was a great feature on the G series as well, that Canon
    dropped, presumably for cost reasons.
     
    SMS, Aug 24, 2008
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  18. It's not there explicitly, but how can you say it isn't there
    *implicitly*? (Well, you can say it easily enough, but you'd be wrong.)
    As others have pointed out, think back to what the situation was
    regarding digital photography when the charter was written, and the fact
    that at that time the *vast majority* of cameras that looked like 35mm
    SLRs were, in fact, film cameras, not DSLRs. DSLRs weren't ubiquitous
    and affordable like they are today.

    Not that the charter is any kind of sacred document that can be enforced
    (as others have pointed out here), but let's be clear on what is and
    isn't in there.


    --
    "In 1964 Barry Goldwater declared: 'Elect me president, and I
    will bomb the cities of Vietnam, defoliate the jungles, herd the
    population into concentration camps and turn the country into a
    wasteland.' But Lyndon Johnson said: 'No! No! No! Don't you dare do
    that. Let ME do it.'"

    - Characterization (paraphrased) of the 1964 Goldwater/Johnson
    presidential race by Professor Irwin Corey, "The World's Foremost
    Authority".
     
    David Nebenzahl, Aug 25, 2008
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  19. True, but notice I made no claims as to what groups were or weren't
    widely distributed (I actually have no idea which ones are, apart from
    the top-level ones like r.p.digital which I *assume* are widely
    distributed). Just pointing out what's there.


    --
    "In 1964 Barry Goldwater declared: 'Elect me president, and I
    will bomb the cities of Vietnam, defoliate the jungles, herd the
    population into concentration camps and turn the country into a
    wasteland.' But Lyndon Johnson said: 'No! No! No! Don't you dare do
    that. Let ME do it.'"

    - Characterization (paraphrased) of the 1964 Goldwater/Johnson
    presidential race by Professor Irwin Corey, "The World's Foremost
    Authority".
     
    David Nebenzahl, Aug 25, 2008
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  20. This post is off-topic for this newsgroup, rec.photo.equipment.35mm,
    which is concerned with film cameras that use 35mm film, not digital
    cameras that look like 35mm SLRs.

    Please use an appropriate newsgroup for postings on digital cameras. One
    of the following groups would be a good place for such postings:

    rec.photo.digital
    rec.photo.digital.point+shoot
    rec.photo.digital.rangefinder
    rec.photo.digital.slr
    rec.photo.digital.slr-systems

    (Note that the list of groups available to you depends on what your ISP
    or news provider carries, and may differ from this list)


    --
    "In 1964 Barry Goldwater declared: 'Elect me president, and I
    will bomb the cities of Vietnam, defoliate the jungles, herd the
    population into concentration camps and turn the country into a
    wasteland.' But Lyndon Johnson said: 'No! No! No! Don't you dare do
    that. Let ME do it.'"

    - Characterization (paraphrased) of the 1964 Goldwater/Johnson
    presidential race by Professor Irwin Corey, "The World's Foremost
    Authority".
     
    David Nebenzahl, Aug 25, 2008
    #20
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