Canon announces EF-S 18-200 IS

Discussion in 'Canon' started by SMS, Aug 26, 2008.

  1. SMS

    D-Mac Guest


    What a load of cods wallop! Canon are driven by an obsession to gain
    market share. It is in their doctrine.
     
    D-Mac, Aug 27, 2008
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  2. SMS

    SMS Guest

    Yeah, I've had people ask me which D-SLR body to buy and they only want
    _one_ super-zoom lens. The answer has always been a Nikon body plus the
    18-200 VR, with the standard precautionary statements regarding zooms
    with that range. Canon screwed up by waiting so long to come out with
    such a lens. Traditionally those wide-range zooms have been products
    from Tamron, Quantaray, Sigma, etc., since no self-respecting camera
    manufacturer wanted to put their names on them.

    I'm interested to see not only the Canon version of the 18-200
    stabilized lens, but the new Tamron 18-270mm F/3.5-6.3 VC (once you've
    decided to make the trade-offs to a stabilized super zoom why not go
    totally wild?).
     
    SMS, Aug 27, 2008
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  3. OK, I haven't needed to use raw on those cameras, so I haven't seen any
    problems.

    Thanks,
    David
     
    David J Taylor, Aug 27, 2008
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  4. It's the old question of trade-offs - and of what quality is "good
    enough".
    15-300mm would be nice!

    David
     
    David J Taylor, Aug 27, 2008
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  5. SMS

    Ray Fischer Guest

    As is every successful business. It's only fools and suckers who
    think that business is not about making money.
     
    Ray Fischer, Aug 27, 2008
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  6. SMS

    Guest Guest

    I had it in my hand along with the 50D last week in Montreal.
     
    Guest, Aug 27, 2008
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  7. SMS

    SMS Guest

    Canon had the idea that if they didn't make an 18-200 IS that they could
    sell two lenses (70-300 IS and 17-85 IS) instead, and make _more_ money.

    They probably thought that consumers would understand and accept the
    advantages of narrower range lenses despite the extra cost (and many
    do). If someone is buying an SLR you assume that some of the reasons are
    that they a) want the flexibility of being able to use different lenses,
    b) understand that "one size does not fit all," and c) care more about
    picture quality than someone buying a ZLR.
     
    SMS, Aug 27, 2008
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  8. SMS

    Guest Guest

    like the 18-55? :)
    ken rockwell is an aficionado of himself and his kids. he often
    'reviews' equipment he hasn't seen, or maybe has briefly touched it at
    a tradeshow. and much of what he says is made up (by his own
    admission). using ken as evidence that the canon lens is better is
    just ludicrous.

    more objective tests show that the nikon and canon lenses are both very
    good lenses.
    actually it's the other way around. canon excels in marketing, and
    nikon prefers to take their time designing a compelling product. for
    example, nikon wasn't the first with full frame, but the d3 is in many
    ways, much more advanced than what canon has. canon, on the other
    hand, manages to get some organizations to require wearing canon
    attire, even if shooting another brand of camera.

    <http://www.nppa.org/news_and_events/news/2007/07/nfl01.html>
     
    Guest, Aug 27, 2008
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  9. SMS

    Guest Guest

    not anymore. with the 40d, and presumably other recent canon bodies,
    anything past f/5.6 will not work, even with taped pins. lenses that
    are f/6.3, such as the sigma, falsely report the f/stop to the camera
    and it mostly works.
     
    Guest, Aug 27, 2008
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  10. Please be a little more careful with your quoting - I didn't say this.

    David
     
    David J Taylor, Aug 27, 2008
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  11. SMS

    D-Mac Guest

    The pity of it is that you haven't any more of a clue than the Drongos
    who think it isn't.
     
    D-Mac, Aug 28, 2008
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  12. SMS

    Ray Fischer Guest

    But you don't know the details of either format so how can you make
    any claims about their similarities?

    Your claim is idiotic. Learn why and stop embrassing yourself.
     
    Ray Fischer, Aug 28, 2008
    #32
  13. SMS

    Ray Fischer Guest

    Tell us all what qualifies you to speak for Canon and their business
    strategy? Are you an officer of the company? A high-level marketing
    exec?
     
    Ray Fischer, Aug 28, 2008
    #33
  14. SMS

    Ray Fischer Guest

    Market domination results in extinction?!?

    Some kind of business double-speak? Or just sour grapes?
     
    Ray Fischer, Aug 28, 2008
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  15. SMS

    D-Mac Guest

    You don't know what I know or who I am Ray... You just chime in like the
    rest of the sheep.
     
    D-Mac, Aug 28, 2008
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  16. SMS

    D-Mac Guest

    Eventually all who seek domination of anything are doomed to
    extinction... Are you such a twit you don't understand anything Ray?
     
    D-Mac, Aug 28, 2008
    #36
  17. No, I'm sure, John. I would have simply left the name of the poster and
    the words. That's all.

    What's interesting is that /a few/ early cameras did offer "TIFF" mode,
    which contained the 8-bit gamma corrected data, and not the 10-bit or
    12-bit raw sensor data. But I don't know if anyone actually called those
    TIFF files "RAW".

    Cheers,
    David
     
    David J Taylor, Aug 28, 2008
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  18. SMS

    Ray Fischer Guest

    Explain to us how TIFF and RAW are similar. Let's see you cut the crap
    for once and demonstrate that you really do know what you're talking
    about.
     
    Ray Fischer, Aug 28, 2008
    #38
  19. SMS

    D-Mac Guest

    Olympus and Panasonic do.
     
    D-Mac, Aug 28, 2008
    #39
  20. SMS

    Ray Fischer Guest

    Eventually all things are doomed to extinction. So do you have any
    rebuttal better than an inane tautology?
     
    Ray Fischer, Aug 28, 2008
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