Canon announces EF-S 18-200 IS

Discussion in 'Canon' started by SMS, Aug 26, 2008.

  1. SMS

    D-Mac Guest

    What's you problem sunshine?
    constipated and bunged up to the brain again?
     
    D-Mac, Aug 28, 2008
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  2. SMS

    D-Mac Guest

    One of the curiosities of getting old is hanging on to the past. The
    older you get the tighter the grip. You'd know all about that, wouldn't
    you John?
     
    D-Mac, Aug 28, 2008
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  3. SMS

    ASAAR Guest

    Ah. So it wasn't a typo of an attempt to cast Persians upon the
    Noel Cowards, Oscar Wildes, Elton Johns and Boys George of the
    world. That's a relief.
     
    ASAAR, Aug 28, 2008
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  4. SMS

    ASAAR Guest

    The D90 might be worth the additional expense, not just for it's
    IQ, ISO and AF performance advantages. It also would allow you to
    try out Nikon's very nice CLS flash system without having to
    purchase two Speedlights, since unlike the D60, the D90's built-in
    flash can operate as a flash Commander. To utilize CLS, you'd need
    to mount either an SB-800 or SB-900 on the D60, an awkward pairing.

    I shouldn't be so quick to speak though, as I'm waffling between
    getting a D90 and another D50. :)
     
    ASAAR, Aug 28, 2008
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  5. SMS

    ASAAR Guest

    So what's taking Microsoft so long to f-f-f-fade away?
     
    ASAAR, Aug 28, 2008
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  6. SMS

    ASAAR Guest

    Dictionary not needed. If you didn't get it, pipe down. If you
    did get it, your reply shows you to be sorrier than I imagined.
     
    ASAAR, Aug 28, 2008
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  7. SMS

    D-Mac Guest

    I absolutely "possibly can". You are the one questioning my expertise.
    Do your homework and attempt to prove me wrong... Or confirm what I say.

    Keep in mind too, I was one of the pioneers of digital enlargements and
    have a clue or two about image files.

    As for dancing to your tune? In your dreams Johnny, in your dreams.
     
    D-Mac, Aug 29, 2008
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  8. SMS

    D-Mac Guest

    The babbling idiots calling themselves camp. As in Linux camp.
     
    D-Mac, Aug 29, 2008
    #48
  9. ASAAR wrote:
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    As size and weight come into it, not to mention the very considerable
    difference in cost, and the fact that the D90 cannot here be bought over
    the counter as yet, the D60 won the day. The combo of D60 with its sensor
    cleaning + Nikon 18-200mm image-stabilised lens which will be permanently
    mounted means that dust should not be a significant problem. I haven't
    carried a separate flash unit for the last dozen years or so.

    David
     
    David J Taylor, Aug 29, 2008
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  10. SMS

    D-Mac Guest

    Your choice to believe me or not. Just as I am free to make decisions
    about your dubious credibility too. You have after all, failed to
    confirm you have ever taken a photo in your life.
    Failed to confirm you actually own a camera and failed to confirm
    anything that might substantiate your contradiction of almost everyone
    who posts something you decide to mount a challenge to.

    Basically John, I'm telling you I've had enough of your garbage. If you
    want to be taken seriously, it's time to step up to the plate and show
    your worth... Not simply disagree with someone - anyone and expect to be
    taken seriously.
     
    D-Mac, Aug 29, 2008
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  11. SMS

    D-Mac Guest

    My wife's D60 is a total disappointment. I thought at first it would be
    excellent after seeing the first dozen or so images from it. And then
    the stupid design flaws began to emerge. The autofocus is the main
    problem. Set it in custom functions to use the centre spot and then the
    camera decides to sue whatever it feels like - invariably the wrong spot
    and it only has another two to chose from!

    The save time for RAW images is disturbing to say the least and with a
    small buffer, guess what shot is the critical one? The one you run out
    of frames and comes up next.

    I thought the SB600 flash system pretty good until I tried to make it
    fulfil it's promise of Guide Number 30m (ISO 100) Not a hope in hell of
    illuminating anything at that distance and it's recharge time is as bad
    as the save time on the camera.

    Now I would have just accepted all this as what you get in an entry
    level DSLR if it wasn't for the fact her sister bought a Canon 450D with
    Canon speedlite. Quite frankly there is no comparison. Had Canon
    announced this lens two months ago, there is no way I would have let her
    buy the Nikon. It's garbage. P&S from Panasonic and Fiji outperform it.
     
    D-Mac, Aug 29, 2008
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  12. D-Mac wrote:
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    Interesting to read your comments - I have also noticed with the D40 that
    you have to watch where the focus is - it's easy to touch the rocker
    switch and change the AF point. IIRC, using Marco mode is supposed to fix
    it at centre.

    As I don't use RAW or an external flash, the other problems don't affect
    me. I've usually found the Nikon specifications accurate, if not even a
    little conservative, so I'm slight surprised that the flash didn't perform
    as advertised. Of course, flash is affected a lot by room conditions -
    wall reflectivity and ceiling height, for example.

    When I bought the D40, I tried both Nikon and Canon to see which handled
    better, as I'd sold all my old lenses so I had no reason to chose one or
    the other. This Nikon was, in my hands, noticeable better than the Canon
    equivalent, so Nikon it was. I've been very pleased so far, using the
    camera for recreational photography.

    Cheers,
    David
     
    David J Taylor, Aug 29, 2008
    #52
  13. Because pros will probably use Canon's 28-300mm on their 1.3x -1.0x
    crop cameras (if they use a superzoom at all) :)

    -Wolfgang
     
    Wolfgang Weisselberg, Aug 29, 2008
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  14. SMS

    D-Mac Guest

    I can name three but as long as you try your holier than me attitude,
    you don't get nothing out of me.
     
    D-Mac, Aug 29, 2008
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  15. SMS

    D-Mac Guest

    You spike my curiosity David.
    Your "loss" figures seem about right to me but even at 3 stops under
    exposure, there still ought to be an images of some sort.

    I do have a F/1.4 lens incidentally. At 3 stops under exposed, there
    should still be an image when shooting at the flash's full power in a
    gym with the lights off. Nada at 100 feet. The rating of the flash is
    too optimistic.

    I always believed the concept of a Guide number was to provide an
    accurate point of reference you could use to set flash duration from.

    My Metz flashes never struggle to achieve their rated output. Are you
    suggestion the Japanese guide number system different to the German one?

    For that matter, I don't have the GN issue with Canon speedlites. Could
    it be the Canon Guide number rating is different to the Nikon numbering
    system?
     
    D-Mac, Aug 29, 2008
    #55
  16. That misses at least a 50mm. And I'd take Canon's 70-200 over
    the 70-300 any day.

    -Wolfgang
     
    Wolfgang Weisselberg, Aug 29, 2008
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