Canon, Canon, Canon......

Discussion in 'Canon' started by RichA, Mar 6, 2007.

  1. RichA

    RichA Guest

    From Luminous Landscape Antarctic trip review:

    "About 85% of the trip's members were shooting with Canon gear, mostly
    1Ds MKII. There were a couple of 1D MKII and 5D's, with several people
    having Rebel XT and XTi bodies as backups.

    There were quite a few camera failures, most of them occasioned by our
    shooting in rain on the first day ashore in The Falklands. The rain
    was not heavy - more a persistent drizzle than a heavy rain, but it
    took its toll. In all, 90 minutes of wet shooting produced six 1Ds
    MKII cameras which stopped working for one reason or another. Three of
    them recovered after a night of drying out. Three remained hors de
    combat for the rest of the trip.

    Three Canon 5D's died that day, with one subsequent recovery. Two
    Rebel XTi's lost their rear LCD's, though otherwise continued to work
    (which is a real hassle, because though one can keep shooting, there's
    no way to change any settings, or at least to know what the changes
    are)."
     
    RichA, Mar 6, 2007
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  2. RichA

    AustinMN Guest

    The only real value of this is knowing that the manual is right -
    don't expose your camera to rain.

    Good grief, Rich, is there anything that you don't complain about?

    Austin
     
    AustinMN, Mar 6, 2007
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  3. RichA

    RichA Guest

    I used my E-1 during torrential rain, that cause a flood, that netted
    me a picture, that ended up published. NO PROBLEMS!!!
    Apparently there's water sealed and then there's water SEALED.
     
    RichA, Mar 6, 2007
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  4. R*I*C*H*I*S*A*T*R*O*L*L
     
    Charles Schuler, Mar 6, 2007
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  5. RichA

    RichA Guest

    I like to point out when "Pro" somehow fails the test. You'd think
    for $8000 Canon could almost waterproof the frigging things.
     
    RichA, Mar 6, 2007
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  6. Why do you persist in blaming Canon? Everyone knows that you supposed to
    liberally spread food grade silicone grease all over the vulnerable points
    of the 5D. It's the user's responsibility to weatherproof their camera and
    lenses.







    Rita
     
    Rita Ä Berkowitz, Mar 6, 2007
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  7. That would obviously be easier than putting a warning in the
    instructions telling people to not get the camera wet, and
    expecting them to read and understand it.

    But Charles is clearly right.

    --
    "What is the first law?"
    "To Protect."
    "And the second?"
    "Ourselves."

    Terry Austin
     
    No 33 Secretary, Mar 6, 2007
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  8. RichA

    frederick Guest

    Does that include over the front element of the lens - which won't
    noticeably degrade image quality unless it's a Nikkor?
     
    frederick, Mar 7, 2007
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  9. RichA

    Guest Guest

    I have had a couple vinyl camera raicoats for years. They were under $20
    and, yes they are plastic. My 1980 Pentax LX was weather sealed, but I
    always used the raincoat in bad weather...

    As you pointed out, the manual did state don't get your camera wet...

    RTFM (Read The err, Fine Manual)
     
    Guest, Mar 7, 2007
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  10. I have had a couple vinyl camera raicoats for years. They were under $20
    and, yes they are plastic. My 1980 Pentax LX was weather sealed, but I
    always used the raincoat in bad weather...

    As you pointed out, the manual did state don't get your camera wet...

    RTFM (Read The err, Fine Manual)
     
    Not Disclosed, Mar 7, 2007
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  11. RichA

    Joan Guest

    Please tell us about the 15% who were not using Canon.

    --
    Joan
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/joan-in-manly

    : >From Luminous Landscape Antarctic trip review:
    :
    : "About 85% of the trip's members were shooting with Canon gear,
    mostly
    : 1Ds MKII. There were a couple of 1D MKII and 5D's, with several
    people
    : having Rebel XT and XTi bodies as backups.
    :
    : There were quite a few camera failures, most of them occasioned by
    our
    : shooting in rain on the first day ashore in The Falklands. The rain
    : was not heavy - more a persistent drizzle than a heavy rain, but it
    : took its toll. In all, 90 minutes of wet shooting produced six 1Ds
    : MKII cameras which stopped working for one reason or another. Three
    of
    : them recovered after a night of drying out. Three remained hors de
    : combat for the rest of the trip.
    :
    : Three Canon 5D's died that day, with one subsequent recovery. Two
    : Rebel XTi's lost their rear LCD's, though otherwise continued to
    work
    : (which is a real hassle, because though one can keep shooting,
    there's
    : no way to change any settings, or at least to know what the changes
    : are)."
    :
     
    Joan, Mar 7, 2007
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  12. RichA

    Skinner1 Guest

    Ummm...... Call me a traditionalist but I was taught.....

    to use the right tool for the job.

    So you don't take your Canon out in the rain.
     
    Skinner1, Mar 7, 2007
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    Bill Funk Guest

    Bob Guccioni has made a lot of money that way.
    :)

    --
    Senator Hillary Clinton vowed
    Sunday she will introduce a bill
    in the Senate to ensure that
    every vote is counted and every
    voter given a receipt. This should
    be a lot of fun. The last time
    she introduced a bill her parents
    warned her not to marry him.
     
    Bill Funk, Mar 7, 2007
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  14. RichA

    RichA Guest

    My solution would be to buy a dozen 5Ds or so, immerse them in
    silicone rubber, let it dry, then use the camera till the battery ran
    out of charge, tossing it, and then picking up the next one.
     
    RichA, Mar 7, 2007
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  15. I could've used my 5D in the very same rain and ended up with the same results
    (or actually better results, if you consider image quality).

    If you wanted a statement like the one quoted above to have even a shred of
    meaning, you'd have to test at least ten E-1's at the same time. And then
    compare the statistics with other cameras.
     
    Magic Lantern, Mar 7, 2007
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  16. RichA

    RichA Guest

    The 5D is not water sealed in any way. But, if you feel like trashing
    a $3000 camera, by all means...
     
    RichA, Mar 8, 2007
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  17. "Not water sealed" does not mean that it will die first time you used it in the
    rain. Even if it is a very heavy rain. If you rain-test a 100 non-sealed cameras
    against a 100 sealed cameras it is expected that you'll lose more of the
    non-sealed ones. Maybe a lot more. But just a single occasion does not
    demonstrate anything. It is quite possible that your "sealed" Olympus will just
    happen to fare worse than my non-sealed 5D.
     
    Magic Lantern, Mar 8, 2007
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  18. RichA

    RichA Guest

    I doubt it. The camera is o-ring sealed throughout. The 14-54mm
    Zuiko lens is also weather sealed.
    Besides, the article referenced a bunch of Canon's (not one) including
    pro, weather sealed models.
    You can't submerge these cameras like you can a a lowly waterproof
    P&S, but they should be able to take a shower.
     
    RichA, Mar 8, 2007
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    Phil K Guest


    Don't bother replying to "RichA", he is an ass, nothing more.
     
    Phil K, Mar 8, 2007
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  20. RichA

    Skip Guest

    I'm still trying to figure out why they had such a failure rate. I've used
    my 5D in just the precipitation that LL describes, but at somewhat higher
    temps. Hey, I live in SoCal, not the Falklands... I haven't done it often,
    but I've not had a failure, nor has my wife, working under the same
    conditions with the same model camera.
    I wonder if the combination of low temps and moisture was what did them in?
     
    Skip, Mar 8, 2007
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