Canon compared to Panasonic $4200 compared to a $650 wonder bug.

When you pay $4200 for a 20D and 70 ~ 200 F2.8 "L" series zoom lens,
should you expect a $650 Panasonic FZ50 to out perform it in shadow
detail and long range image clarity?

One day while out with Margie spotting planes as she loves to do, we
stood side by side and took identical pictures... Her's were in JPEG
mode ("I don't understand all that RAW mumbo jumbo") and mine in that
hugely over rated RAW format which requires endless time in post
processing to get a usable image...

http://www.weddingsnportraits.com.au/POD/07-09-07

Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

Doug

 

Nuh, not with your credibility.

 

ask him to post the EXIF data

 

OOPs, haven't set up this news server properly yet, but all corrected now,
D-Mac has been caught in the past being less that forthright with
"comparison" photos so I wouldn't believe the little weasel unless he took
the photos and then handed the memory cards directly to an impartial arbiter
for a full and proper examination.
I noticed that Doug has not included any EXIF information with the photo's
but then that's par for the course for Doug

 

You are actually advertising the fact that is the best you can manage with a
20D and L series zoom?

Certainly makes *me* wonder why you'd bother!

MrT.

 

Exactly. How could a 'photographer' end up shooting at 1/140 sec with
an f2.8 lens in bright sunshine on a large sensor camera? Gee, just
as well he used RAW to keep the inevitable resulting quality intact..
But I'm sure Douglas will be back to tell us it was really a joke and
that he just meant to troll. He's such a humorous wag, is our Doug.

(I wonder if he has noticed that every response here questions his
credibility and skill... (O: Ah, 'tis a grand and well-deserved
reputation to have, to be sure!)

 

Gee Mark, are you still here?

I thought that Dougs' appeals to the Queensland Police/Federal
Police/Asio/FBI/ KGB/SS/Stazi/RSPCA/RAOOB would have had you locked up
and disposed of by now.

Maybe Dougie messed up the paperwork... again.

 

Then go ahead and wonder and shoot with the Panasonic who gives a flying
..... If you knew photography then you wouldn't post and waste space with
dribble so tell someone who cares.

 

Makes me wonder why you used Photoshop's Shadow/Highlight command on
the pano pic and then tried to paint it back in where it made the sky
too light around the plane.

Also, can we assume the dark blob underneath the right wing of the 20D
pic is sensor dust? Shoulda got the 40D!


Now please post the RAW file from the 20D and an unprocessed JPG
straight from the Panasonic so that we may do a fair comparison. I
won't hold my breath.

 

There is very little "Fair" in anything you post, why then do you expect me
the do what you don't? No hope of getting your wish... But you knew that
before you posted your drivel, didn't you?

Your assumptions about the Photoshop tools are wrong too. I don't use the
shadow/highlight tool. It's way too damaging to the images it's applied on.

The fact is simply that these are two pictures taken at the same time (or
within seconds of each other) at the same place but with two entirely
different cameras. That the JPEG from the Panasonic is a technically better
quality image, is not just surprising but a shocking damnation of Canon's
1.6 crop sensors.

Weren't you the one who accused me of trickery when I posted a pic from a
1.6 crop Canon and a different one from the Panasonic demonstrating the God
awful way Canon handle shadow detail? So now when I post shots of an
identical subject, it's not good enough for you? You must be a terrible
worry to your mother, child.

I expect this sort of disbelieving from disciples of EOS. Be happy with your
"more of the same crap" new toy. I've got my eyes open. Your problem is that
you believe the spin doctors. Your loss baby!

All my Canon gear is starting to sell. A few gullible disciples are getting
some cheap stuff.

The Nikon speedlites that arrived yesterday really ought to be marketed by
Canon instead of the shit they sell. The lenses should be here in a day or
so and the new bodies next month. It's Canon bye bye time for me.

The planes are just one example of the weak spots Canon 1.6 crop DSLRs have.
They have way too many faults in way too areas to be considered anything but
a slight improvement over cameras that cost just a little more than the
infamous Canon camera "grip" that only uses one of it's batteries!

Doug

 

Of course I knew you were too chickenshit to post the originals.
It would just prove you to be a charlatan and a liar.

Bullshit. That one has S/H written all over it. Now you just need
the I/T filter. Then you'd really have some S/H/I/T.

Call me when you can post a meaningful comparison. Until then, you're
wasting everyone's time with your deluded nonsense.

 

Well now... in reply to my intended offer to help you sell some of your
pictures, when I enquired if they were full frame shots... "consider all my
pics are cropped" Who wrote that gem of understatement? Not you by any
chance?

I seriously doubt you could create a picture without cropping it and using
Photoshop to make the colours so un natural even Dolly magazine would ask
you to tone it down.. Why is it that you think full on, in your face
saturation of colour is the ticket to fame?

I'm afraid child, you are the one deluding yourself. Put me down for one of
your first "coffee table" books too. We could use a good laugh around here.
The ones we get to print are all way to serious from real perfectionists who
demand natural looking photographs in their publications... And have sell
out launch parties.

But then Mr know it all wouldn't want to put himself in their class for fear
of failure... Hmmm?

Doug

 

Off topic..

Yep, probably the same paperwork he used back in March 2006 (iirc),
and on earlier occasions.. Don't know how I survive the onslaught..
(O:

PS - I just had to look up 'raoob'.. dang it. You a member? Can I
get a t-shirt?

 

I think I still have a card in my wallet. Haven't been a part of it
for some years. I must make some calls...

 

Well i'll be... That one went right past me till Mark brought it out!
Just checked my card, became a member in 1980. Still have all my
original bits & pieces tucked away somewhere too!

Welcome Brother!

--

 

No mess up Avery.
http://www.julianabbot.com/legalactions/
Just as soon as the Police are finished their investigations I'll post their
results right along with a picture of the process server delivering his
summons.

Doug

 

Oops, my bad. That should be 1989.

Still have all my

 

I can't find my card.

My shout I guess.