Canon EF 8-15mm f/4L Fisheye USM

Discussion in 'Digital SLR' started by Bruce, Sep 2, 2010.

  1. Bruce

    Robert Coe Guest

    : On Fri, 3 Sep 2010 17:26:00 -0400, "Peter"
    :
    : >: >> On Thu, 02 Sep 2010 17:13:06 -0500, Superzooms Still Win
    : >>
    : >>>
    : >>>>I saw the announcement for this lens about a week ago but don't recall
    : >>>>it being discussed in the rec.photo.* newsgroups. As the header says,
    : >>>>it is a zoom fisheye lens. It has full frame (24x36) coverage at 15mm
    : >>>>and the usual circular fisheye image within the full frame at 8mm.
    : >>>>
    : >>>>I'm not a fisheye fan, so would be unlikely to buy one. But it must
    : >>>>appeal to some, otherwise why design, develop and manufacture it?
    : >>>
    : >>>For the same reason that I use an excellent (zero CA) fish-eye adapter on
    : >>>my superzoom cameras to seamlessly zoom from 9mm-36mm. For one simple
    : >>>example, when shooting aurora. I can instantly go from a horizon to
    : >>>horizon
    : >>>9mm full-sky inventory to a more moderate 16mm wide-angle, to more closely
    : >>>frame some of the important or interesting and colorful areas of the
    : >>>auroral activity. Or documenting meteors during strong storms. It's also
    : >>>great for capturing, and properly framing, sunset/rise and mountain
    : >>>vistas,
    : >>>or wide sweeps of colors in fall-foliage. Some sunrise/sets can easily
    : >>>take
    : >>>2-3 frames done at 16mm and then pano-stitched. Macro photography where
    : >>>you
    : >>>wish to frame a deep subject (now all in focus) with wide washes of
    : >>>background colors and hues.There are many uses, once you use one. This is
    : >>>generally not something the typical pretend-photographer troll can imagine
    : >>>in their mind unless they've actually put one to use. The other added
    : >>>advantage is that this is all available for under $100 at f/2.0 or f/2.4.
    : >>>(Depending on which superzoom camera the fish-eye adapter is used on. It
    : >>>does not detract from the camera's own original widest aperture.) That's a
    : >>>$1,300 savings with a 2-stop advantage. Not to mention the extra seamless
    : >>>non-vignetted zoom range of 16mm-36mm that's not covered by this $1,400
    : >>>8-15mm lens. Oh, one other thing. I won't be getting my cameras' sensors
    : >>>dirty nor any condensation on the mirror and focusing-screen by changing
    : >>>to
    : >>>my fish-eye and super-wide-angle range. Nor will my camera have to make
    : >>>special auto-focusing allowances to prevent front/back focusing problems
    : >>>inherent in all phase-focusing cameras.
    : >>>
    : >>>I suspect that DSLR owners will finally learn how a lens of this range can
    : >>>be put to good use. Like I've been using regularly for all manner of
    : >>>subjects for the last 9 years. Better late than never, I guess. They're
    : >>>always so far behind though.
    : >>
    : >> Sounds interesting. Please post some samples.
    : >
    : >
    : >Don't hold your breath.
    :
    : I'm not. Just calling out an imbeclie to embarass themselves further
    : by offering silly excuses as to why it won't post samples. It's
    : claimed that it's done it already, so I've asked it for a link.

    You might as well ask the Washington Monument to point out the pole star for
    you.

    Bob
     
    Robert Coe, Sep 6, 2010
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    Peter Guest


    I caught it last night on MSNBC.
    Here is the blurb:
    http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/the-mind-of-manson/6ur8fol
     
    Peter, Sep 6, 2010
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    J. Clarke Guest

    On 9/6/2010 11:39 AM, Doug McDonald wrote:
    Why not just say "SiO" then? Or is there another integer besides 1 that
    is between 0 and 2 in the New Math?

    <snip>
     
    J. Clarke, Sep 6, 2010
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    Peter Guest

    However, that doesn't obviate my original point about Manson and it.
    Time flies ,,,,,,,,
    I am not complaining. However, I know firsthand that it can be tough being
    an old fart, anywhere.
    After expending a lot of effort to climb out on a jetty. I gave up and
    didn't get the picture.
    But, it sure beats the alternative.

    I gave a whole new meaning to: the flesh is weak, but the mind is willing.
     
    Peter, Sep 6, 2010
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    Peter Guest


    You just hit on a truism. According to a psychologist I know, who is retired
    from The Federal Bureau of Prisons, after a relatively short time in
    solitary most will beg for death. She agrees with you that life in a maximum
    security facility is worse than death.
     
    Peter, Sep 8, 2010
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    Die Wahrheit Guest

    Oh, I see. So as long as I'm not present for all the killings directly
    caused by my speech, then I'm not responsible for any of them. Funny that.
    Okay, then Hitler was also innocent. Thanks for clarifying that. I get it
    now.

    <whoosh, right over that (sometimes) pointy little head of his>
     
    Die Wahrheit, Sep 9, 2010
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    Die Wahrheit Guest

    Hmm... I don't recall that Manson was present at any of the murders, but
    then my memory of the news broadcasts at the time is not 100%. I recall he
    sent his followers out on their own and they just returned to camp when
    done.

    Not that this really matters to the point being made.
     
    Die Wahrheit, Sep 9, 2010
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  8. I don't believe you should be anyone to post anything on any form of
    morality. Considering all your repetitive slanderous lies. But then, what
    else should anyone expect from someone who claims to have been on a police
    force. They're all just like you. Useless murderous and slanderous liars.
    You "rep'esent your homie thugs" so accurately and so well.
     
    Superzooms Still Win, Sep 9, 2010
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    tony cooper Guest

    Our troll may be revealing where he came up with all of those stories
    about treks in the wilderness and such. His animosity towards the
    police may be based on his arrest and conviction, and the stories made
    up in those long nights in Cell Block C.
     
    tony cooper, Sep 9, 2010
    #29
  10. You just love digging your slanderous and libelous grave even deeper and
    deeper, don't you. As I said, you display the perfect qualities of any
    police personnel.
     
    Superzooms Still Win, Sep 9, 2010
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    Bowser Guest

    Damn, you have now committed the ultimate newsgroup crime; you are now
    boring and predictable. Look, unless you can come up with some new material,
    I'm going to stop playing volleyball with you. Maybe you can put down the
    "graphic novels" for a day or two and work on your lines. They really,
    really need improvement.
     
    Bowser, Sep 10, 2010
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  12. Please stop encouraging the pest.
     
    John McWilliams, Sep 10, 2010
    #32
  13. You and Bowser are capable thereof; other is not.
     
    John McWilliams, Sep 10, 2010
    #33
  14. Oh? Are you feeling pestered over the FACT that I have now successfully
    proved you to be nothing but a lying slanderous and libelous **** of a
    troll to the whole world? It's either you are, or I am. I have given you
    all a way to prove that I am the troll, but you know as well as I do, the
    MOMENT you try to do so by requesting that 100% crop of any image that you
    claimed I have stolen, it will instantly prove you to be exactly what I
    have claimed all along. That you are nothing but fuckingly useless lying
    slanderous and libelous trolls.

    Yes, I suppose that would feel like "being pestered" to something as
    low-life as you.

    Keep on practicing your trapped-animal's displacement-activity. It's all
    you have left now.
     
    Superzooms Still Win, Sep 10, 2010
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  15. Ceptin' there's really no win for you, not to mention the rest of the
    NG.... He'll reply whether you're chain jerking or not.

    PS maybe get DirecTV with all the extras. You can even watch two types
    of football in Hi-Def.....
     
    John McWilliams, Sep 12, 2010
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    Peter Guest


    Nice captures.
     
    Peter, Sep 12, 2010
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    Ofnuts Guest

    Great ones but you should do something about the butt in the background
    of Honey Bunny.
     
    Ofnuts, Sep 12, 2010
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    Peter Guest


    Be more fun to work on Honey Bunny.
     
    Peter, Sep 12, 2010
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    Ofnuts Guest

    Ofnuts, Sep 12, 2010
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    J. Clarke Guest

    Had a professor who took them up on that deal with a P-51. Flew it
    until something major broke and then sold it for several times what he
    had paid.
     
    J. Clarke, Sep 12, 2010
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