Canon Elan 7NE or Minolta Maxxum 7

Discussion in 'Minolta' started by Swirl The World, Nov 2, 2004.

  1. Hi all,

    I am having a nightmare comparing these two cameras --

    I can get a new Canon Elan 7NE from a online store or buy a used
    Minolta Maxxum 7 for about the same price.

    It it were you, which one would you choose? I am an amateur.
    I was going to buy a Minolta Maxxum 7 because of its memory function
    on shooting history of past 7 (?) rolls films. However a new until is
    just too expensive. So I was going to get a Canon Elan 7NE. I
    thought when I upgrade my Canon Powershot G5 to a Canon DSLR in the
    future, maybe I can reuse the lenses.


    Do anyone have experience with both? As a film camera, which one has
    more functionality?

    Thanks!!
     
    Swirl The World, Nov 2, 2004
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  2. I suggest relook the prices. At Adorama, there is just a $50 difference
    between Canon 7NE ($349.95) and Minolta Maxxum 7 ($399.95). If anyone's
    offering them at price WAY below these then beware, it could easily be
    a scam store.

    Looking at specs, Maxxum 7 offers two more AF points than the Canon 7NE
    and spot metering.

    Cheers,

    Siddhartha
     
    Siddhartha Jain, Nov 2, 2004
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    Alan Browne Guest


    Maxxum 7 is "more camera"
    Elan is "less noise" (quiet shutter mechanism).

    Further, the Maxxum 7 has a spot meter which allows more critical measurement of
    the scene than the weighted meter of the Elan 7.

    As to reusing the lenses on the G5? Huh?

    Cheers,
    Alan
     
    Alan Browne, Nov 2, 2004
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    bmoag Guest

    Either camera is extremely capable. If you become more sophisticated the
    metering options of the Minolta may become more important to you.
    I am not a fan of the heft or feel of Canon SLRs but that is a personal
    choice (I think it is significant Canon finally reduced the weight in their
    new dSLR).
    Minolta's dSLR will be out soon and doubtless a lower cost version akin to
    the Canon 300 or NikonD70 will follow in a few months.
    Minolta and Canon lenses are generally very good.
    Minolta lenses tend to be more expensive than Canon.
    From a purist standpoint I would actually favor Minolta.
    However total cost of ownership in the Canon system will probably be less.
     
    bmoag, Nov 2, 2004
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  5. I thought when I upgrade my Canon Powershot G5 to a Canon DSLR in the
    future, maybe I can reuse the lenses.

    The statement makes sense to me.
     
    Buzz Chandler, Nov 2, 2004
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    Alan Browne Guest


    I understand the statement to mean reuse the G5 lens on a DSLR. But the G5 lens
    is fixed to the G5 body, and certainly is not designed for the mount, nor the
    sensor size of a DSLR.

    If he means buying a film camera with lenses and then using them on a future
    DSLR, then yes, by all means. Same applies to the Maxxum 7 ... lenses will work
    on the 7D and future Maxxum digital SLR bodies.

    Cheers,
    Alan
     
    Alan Browne, Nov 2, 2004
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    Tony Guest

    If you have nothing invested in lenses now - go with Canon unless there
    is some really significant feature Minolta has thatCanon does not. Canon is
    the leader in lenses - the part you tend to keep forever, while the bodies
    get updated. This is not likely to change. Minolta has only recently
    introduced USM lenses and will probably never have IS lenses since they are
    attempting a stripped down version based in the body.
     
    Tony, Nov 2, 2004
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  8. That was what he ment
     
    Buzz Chandler, Nov 3, 2004
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    Toto Guest

    I used both cameras and by far I prefer the Maxxum 7. It's in a different
    league than the Elan. They are more features on Minolta, the metering is
    dead on. On the Elan you do NOT have spot metering, where as on the Maxxum 7
    you do.

    On the Maxxum 7 you have the history of the last 7 rolls in etrsm
    f:;speed,aperture. This is great to learn and make progress.

    The lens on Minolta as mentioned by some one in this group are a bit more
    expensive. Now that Minolta and Knoca have merged they should be in a better
    position to compete. This is important as you want to make sure to have the
    vendor around for another 10 years.

    Hopes this helps,
    happy shopping.

    Manuel
     
    Toto, Nov 3, 2004
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  10. Sorry for my poor English -- this was what I meant..

    I thought about the question of lenses for film cameras and reuse them
    in the DSLR. Personally, I like the Maxxum 7 quite a lot -- however,
    I just couldn't find any review of lenses on the Maxxum lines. I just
    know that most Minolta lenses will fit on the Maxxum 7, even on the
    DSLR from Minolta. Yet, I found quite a lot of reivews on the EF
    lenses on the Canon line. Since this will be a big investment for me,
    I am leaning on the Canon side now. However, I have put my eyes on
    the EOS 3, thinking of buying from eBay.
     
    Swirl The World, Nov 4, 2004
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  11. Manuel,

    This is the kind of advise I am looking for. I agreed with the
    assessment on the Maxxum 7's strength (especially on the last 7 rolls'
    history). However, as someone pointed, I should be choosing a
    "system" rather than just a body... so I think I may just go for the
    Canon lines due to its lenses.
     
    Swirl The World, Nov 4, 2004
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  12. You are right, I have zero lenses now. (I have an Canon AE1 from my
    father, but I think the lenses might not fit Canon's new line of
    camera). Agreed with what you said, I am choosing a system, rather
    than just a body .. so I am leaning on the Canon side now.. currently
    shopping for lenses (the 28-135 IS USM lens) on eBay and trying to
    find a used EOS-3....
     
    Swirl The World, Nov 4, 2004
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    Alan Browne Guest


    What, pray tell, lenses do you have in mind as a system?
     
    Alan Browne, Nov 4, 2004
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    Dps Guest

    If you buy "L" series by the dozen, would you keep me a couple? ;-D
     
    Dps, Nov 4, 2004
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    Magnus W Guest

    Rest assured that the ones giving such advice aren't in possession of the
    lenses they are drooling over and giving advice about. Fact is, you can get
    pretty much what you want in both Minolta and Canon, and every need can be
    solved if you are a little creative. Are you going to buy many professional
    grade lenses? I own Minolta, and I have their 24/2.8, 50/1.4, 85/1.4,
    100/2.8 Soft Focus, 135/2.8 STF, 200/2.8, 300/2.8, and 500/8 Mirror Reflex.
    This is just a selection. I also own a Super Takumar (Pentax) 500/4.5, as I
    couldn't justify the real Minolta 600/4. What is lacking? Are you going to
    own more lenses than this, and if so, in what focal lengths? Some lenses
    (400/2.8, 14/2.8, tilt+shift) are indeed absent from the Minolta setup, but
    they are hideously expensive and most photographers won't have the need for
    them. On the other hand there are some exotics in the Minolta lineup
    totally lacking in other's lineups -- the STF lens (no, Nikkor DC ain't the
    same), the mirror reflex that auto focuses, the affordable 400/4.5...
     
    Magnus W, Nov 5, 2004
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  16. Actually, don't get me wrong -- I am sure Minolta's lens selections
    are just as great as Canon's. It is just due to my personal situation
    (working in China, going back to the US for a week to visit parents),
    I need to be able to select and buy remotely on the internet here in a
    matter of a week so I can get them shipped in time when I get home.

    So I did some research on the lens, including reading reviews, asking
    around on the usenet and finding availability on the eBay (can't
    afford a new one).. etc.. I just found there is a "bigger" support
    group of Canon's than Minolta's as far as info goes and as far as used
    units go on eBay. With Canon, I was looking for an all-around lens,
    so I bought a Canon 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM on ebay. The reason for
    me to make that decision is simply that I found lots of info on the
    internet regarding Canon's... and not so much on Minolta.. And due
    to the time frame I have on shopping, buying and get them delivered to
    my home in the US.. I settled for Canon.. now I am bidding on EOS 3 on
    eBay. So I guess, I did it unconventionally -- I first picked a lens
    (or a lens systems) then I picked a camera body, based on all the info
    I can gathered..

    By the way, the Maxxum 7D looks awesome.. just read a review..
     
    Swirl The World, Nov 5, 2004
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    Magnus W Guest

    Ah. Well, you probably did look in the wrong places for advice, but
    whatever fits you -- congrats on your new equipment and good luck :)
     
    Magnus W, Nov 5, 2004
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  18. I went thru almost the same curve except that I was comparing the Canon
    300V and the Maxxum 5. Also, I am in India and ordering from the US
    online stores. What I found was that Minolta lenses are cheaper and
    more abundantly available in the used market - in good condition. Just
    look at one place - www.keh.com

    They have a great selection of Minolta and non-manufacturer lenses for
    Minolta in the used section at great prices. To sum-up from my own
    research and advise I got on this NG, I decided to get these from KEH:
    - $30 Minolta 50mm f1.7 (Used)
    - $60 Minolta 28-85mm or 28-105mm f3.5-4.5 (Used)
    - $100 Minolta 70-210mm f4 (Used)

    All in excellent condition. For $200 you can't get more quality lens
    than this, IMHO. Add a great body like the Maxxum 7 and you are
    rocking!! :)

    Hope this helps,

    Siddhartha
     
    Siddhartha Jain, Nov 5, 2004
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    Tony Guest

    EOS 3 is a great camera (I own one), but if you don't need what it
    offers, the Elan 7 is smaller, lighter, and MUCH quieter. (My wife owns one
    of them). I got the EOS 3 for the intervalometer (an optional extra) as it
    is not available for the Elan. I'm happy with my camera but if I didn't need
    the intervalometer I would prefer the Elan. So check your needs - stuff like
    the better weather sealing etc, and see if you need it.
     
    Tony, Nov 6, 2004
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    Bruce Graham Guest

    How do find the autofocus of the Elan7 compared to the EOS 3?
     
    Bruce Graham, Nov 6, 2004
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