Canon is HURTING!!!

Discussion in 'Canon' started by RichA, May 5, 2008.

  1. RichA

    RichA Guest

    Would you buy a DSLR called "Kiss?"

    From a poster on Dpreview:

    http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1000&message=27809136

    A few snips from the report FYI:
    control system and live view mode, higher sensor pixel count, and a
    lack
     
    RichA, May 5, 2008
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    Nicholas Guest

    Would you buy a Pet Rock?


     
    Nicholas, May 5, 2008
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  3. Would you buy a DSLR called "Kiss?"

    You might if you lived in the Far East............
     
    3Putt from CoastalSouth Carolina, May 5, 2008
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    Ali Guest

    I wouldn't care what it's called to be honest, it would be what it can do
    that I would be more interested in. That said, I don't understand the logic
    behind a name called 'Kiss'. Maybe an American marketing thing, I don't
    know.

    Interesting, but who cares? Maybe if you posted to a business forum more
    people would care? Do photographers care about corporate managements target
    earnings growth?




    Would you buy a DSLR called "Kiss?"

    From a poster on Dpreview:

    http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1000&message=27809136

    A few snips from the report FYI:
    control system and live view mode, higher sensor pixel count, and a
    lack
     
    Ali, May 5, 2008
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    OldBoy Guest

    May be in some sense: prices are going up when earnings drop.
    It's all about exchange rates, so camera and lens prices are dropping in the
    eurozone.
     
    OldBoy, May 5, 2008
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    TRoss Guest

    A lot of folks have. The Digital Rebel line was/is marketed under the
    Kiss Digital name in Japan. If count the film cameras, there have been
    nearly a dozen models carrying the Canon Kiss label.

    Canon isn't alone. Nikon, Sony, Hoya, Olympus have all taken a beating
    in the market over the past year - the value of the stocks are halv
    what it was this time last year.

    Over the past year the markets as a whole have pretty much sucked dead
    bunnies through a bent straw....



    TR
     
    TRoss, May 5, 2008
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    flaming-o Guest

    Sony sells the innards to multiple camera manufacturers, they have reason to
    be bullish.
    Matsushita presumably equals Nikon but no one seems to know for sure. Nikon
    is one of Sony's best customers.
    Canon has been endlessly repackaging old technology in new boxes with a new
    model number. They are not the only vendor doing this but they are one of
    the more flagrant using this type of marketing. Canon users eventually wise
    up to this and become less enthusiastic about the upgrade cycle.
    In any event, as the article indicates. digital photography has already
    matured as a market and most consumers are satisfied with the quality of the
    cameras they have. In a down economy most consumers do not prioritize
    buying newer digital cameras.
    Digital office equipment has long been a commoditized market driven by
    service and price. Again in a down market it is more cost-effective to sit
    out the upgrade cycle and this affects Canon and all manufacturers. The
    falling dollar does not help any Asian manufacturer and the cost of
    petroleum is making the 12,000 mile supply line from Asia to the US even
    longer and harder to disguise.
    Microsoft is feeling the double whammy of domestic and international
    consumer/business resistance to Vista and reluctance to upgrade hardware and
    software simply to run a new OS with no tangible productivity benefits.
    Microsoft sees the end of the endless OS/Office upgrade cycles as a reliable
    revenue stream-- because Vista and Office 2007 are badly designed products
    that harm productivity because of pointless changes in the user
    interface--and is the main reason they tried to buy Yahoo, which they may
    get for less on the second try if Yahoo's stock price tanks like it should.
     
    flaming-o, May 6, 2008
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  8. RichA

    RichA Guest

    No, I chose Rubik's cube instead.
     
    RichA, May 6, 2008
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    rwalker Guest

    Not American. It's sold in the US as the Rebel.
     
    rwalker, May 7, 2008
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    Dev/Null Guest

    Dev/Null, May 7, 2008
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  11. RichA

    Dev/Null Guest

    Rich did, but it died of boredom...
     
    Dev/Null, May 7, 2008
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  12. RichA

    Dev/Null Guest

    The one that was the same colour on all 6 faces...
     
    Dev/Null, May 7, 2008
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    Colin_D Guest

    Your distances are a bit out there. Tokyo to LA is 5,494 miles, and
    Tokyo to NYC is 6,715 miles. A bit short of your 12,000.

    Colin D.
     
    Colin_D, May 8, 2008
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    newsmb Guest

    I suspect you're right. If you're an amateur and own an 8MP DSLR there
    is little reason to upgrade to something newer. With point-and-shoots,
    the newer models are models are often worse than the older ones.

    Microsoft's big problem is that there are no applications out there
    driving the need for newer computers. Historically the only mainstream
    "applications" that really pushed PC hardware to its limits were
    games, and PC gaming is quickly going the way of the dinosaur.
     
    newsmb, May 8, 2008
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