Canon lenses, universally disliked?

Discussion in 'Canon' started by RichA, Jul 31, 2008.

  1. RichA

    dwight Guest

    Thanks for your opinion, but it's just that.

    dwight
     
    dwight, Aug 4, 2008
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  2. RichA

    D-Mac Guest

    My own experience with Canon lenses tells me they have an excellent body
    and should concentrate on improving a few areas in the design... And
    make the lens mount to enables a user to choose a Nikon lens. They'd
    probably have to shut down the lens plant but overall, Canon would be a
    better choice than it is right now.

    When my Brother first bought a Kodak DSLR, the dealer said he'd have to
    order in one with a Canon mount - he'd never sold one!

    Those cameras came with either Nikon or Canon lens mounts. 20 to 1
    against Canon. Anyone with a stable mind would seriously have to question;

    Why, if Canon lenses are so good, did so many professional photographers
    opt for the Nikon mount? Even if the answer was "because they had Nikon
    SLRs"... You'd still have to ask: Why would that be if Canon were as
    good as the worshipper's of EOS try to make out?

    Canon were the first to develop acrylic lens elements. It is a real pity
    they didn't take the time to get it right before launching their load of
    plastic elements on an unsuspecting public. Not since the A1 and their
    quirky lens mounts, has canon produced a truly exceptional lens for
    professional photographers.
     
    D-Mac, Aug 4, 2008
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  3. RichA

    RichA Guest

    Canon managed, through quick adoption of good AF to take a big piece
    of the market in the 1980s-1990s, and their sensors in their DSLRs
    didn't hurt either. But "buying" their way into newsrooms and sports
    magazines didn't hurt even less!!
     
    RichA, Aug 4, 2008
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  4. RichA

    RichA Guest

    Sure, we'll never really know, but we can guess. Why would Canonite
    FF users be buying other brand lenses (often, at much higher prices)
    if there wasn't an advantage to be gained? Why sacrifice modern
    (snicker!) Canon AF lenses to use old MF glass from some other
    company? You KNOW why.
     
    RichA, Aug 4, 2008
    #44
  5. Now that's funny and very true! Canon lost their credibility in lens design
    when they abandoned the FD mount. Boy that was some sweet glass. Much
    better than what we now have in EOS.



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    Rita Berkowitz, Aug 4, 2008
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  6. FD RULZ!!



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    Rita Berkowitz, Aug 4, 2008
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  7. RichA

    RichA Guest

    And the truly sad thing is that Canon could easily make good lenses,
    they make high-end television camera lenses, or used to. They just
    don't want to. Not enough profit margin if you actually have to put
    some quality into a product, so their users scrounge Ebay, KEH, etc,
    looking for something else.
     
    RichA, Aug 4, 2008
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  8. RichA

    Ray Fischer Guest

    The same reason Nikon/Pentax/Sony/Olympus owners buy other brand
    lenses.

    I bought a telescope 2450mm f10. Why didn't I buy the camera-maker's lens?
    Because they don't make that particular kind of lens.

    Of course you're an idiot. All you understand is us vs. them.
     
    Ray Fischer, Aug 4, 2008
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  9. RichA

    Ray Fischer Guest

    Number of people paying for Canon's lenses: tens of thousands every year.

    Number of people paying for your opinion: zero
     
    Ray Fischer, Aug 4, 2008
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  10. RichA

    Guest Guest

    nikon lenses can mount on canon cameras, and in fact that's partly why
    canon was so successful early on.
    that's because the slr/c wasn't a popular camera. why stock what does
    not sell? ask your dealer how many canon rebels he sells.
    the nikon version of the kodak slr (14n, followed by the slr/n) was
    essentially a nikon n80. the canon mount slr/c was essentially a sigma
    sd10 and came out long after the nikon versions did. it was too little
    too late and the entire lineup was discontinued shortly after that.
    canon currently has a higher market share than nikon does, especially
    at the pro level where nikon has lagged in recent years. however, with
    the d3 and d700 (along with the 1d mark iii problems), that's changing.

    canon has a number of lenses that can be considered exceptional, as
    does nikon.
     
    Guest, Aug 4, 2008
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  11. RichA

    D-Mac Guest

    You may be right about the "exceptional" Canon lenses but I never came
    across any with EOS mounts and I spent large dollars on "L" series glass
    when I used Canon cameras.

    Their "legendary" 70 - 200 F/2.8 (non IS model) which is spoken of as if
    it is the mid range zoom all others should strive for... Is magically
    devoid of it's "legendary" powers when compared to the latest Sigma 70 -
    200 F/2.8 EX, DG, Mk II which offers the same image quality and focus
    performance for half the price... But sadly it fails to measure up
    entirely to the Canon... It's not WHITE!

    Other interesting comparisons can be found in the "digital" range of
    Canon lenses. Few measure up to "other" brands. Let's not forget the
    image quality difference (measurable difference too) when you fit a Carl
    Zeiss lens to a Canon 5D.

    I realise Nikon make some lemon lenses but seemingly their worst is is
    as good as Canon's best. A magazine editor said in 1988 that if you used
    a Canon (T9) body with Nikon lenses you'd come close to having the
    perfect camera. Nothing has changed in my opinion.

    I recently bought another Canon - a 40D because I simply enjoy the body.
    I use Carl Zeiss and Nikon lenses on it and although I have lose a few
    conveniences, I have the image quality it never gets with Canon "S"
    series lenses.
     
    D-Mac, Aug 4, 2008
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  12. RichA

    Richard Guest

    Side issue, do you even know how to use a Schmidt-Cassegrain? I think what
    the Canon buyers are buying are available as Canon lenses and they just do
    not want them, of course that doesn't included 2450mm catadioptric type
    lenses.
     
    Richard, Aug 4, 2008
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  13. RichA

    Richard Guest

    Is that where the phrase, "There's one born every minute" comes from?
     
    Richard, Aug 4, 2008
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  14. RichA

    Ray Fischer Guest

    What a daft question. Why do you try again to ask what you really
    want to know.
    I think you're an idiot wallowing in silly tribalism.
     
    Ray Fischer, Aug 5, 2008
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  15. RichA

    Ray Fischer Guest

    As opposed to you, shilling for corporations who don't even give a
    shit about you?
     
    Ray Fischer, Aug 5, 2008
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  16. RichA

    D-Mac Guest

    Is personal abuse all you can come up with when someone counters your
    tirade's? Pretty poor stuff mate. Everyone here is immune to that sort
    of behaviour.

    Do yourself (and the rest of us) a favour and find something else to
    hang on to. People will sooner or later wonder why you have your hand in
    your pants all the time.
     
    D-Mac, Aug 5, 2008
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  17. RichA

    Ray Fischer Guest

    What "counter"? Some asshole insulting tens of thousands of people
    just because he's a stupid bigot who hates some corporation? That's
    not a counter. That's just being an asshole.
    Obviously not you.
     
    Ray Fischer, Aug 5, 2008
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  18. RichA

    D-Mac Guest

    Like someone else said. You sure are earning your money if someone is
    paying your to be a dick head.
     
    D-Mac, Aug 5, 2008
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  19. RichA

    Ray Fischer Guest

    You "debate" like a 14-year-old asshole.
     
    Ray Fischer, Aug 5, 2008
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  20. RichA

    Ray Fischer Guest

    Yes. Do you know how to use a Mak?
    Yes you do.
     
    Ray Fischer, Aug 9, 2008
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