Canon Mark II versus Canon Mark III

Discussion in 'Canon' started by Savant, Feb 27, 2008.

  1. Savant

    Savant Guest

    I work with the Canon Mark II 1D and 1DS. Does anyone have any
    experience with the Mark III who can compare the differences? Thanks
    and please visit me at http://www.brucekersten.com
     
    Savant, Feb 27, 2008
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  2. I highly recommend the Mk III. I really enjoyed mine, but sold it in favor
    of the Nikon D3. The D3 is a better choice since you are getting better
    build quality, better lens system, and higher ISO performance with sharper
    images. All around the D3 is the better choice. Plus, should you decide
    you want a Mk III you can use your Nikkor lenses on it via an adapter.





    Rita
     
    Rita Berkowitz, Feb 27, 2008
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  3. Savant

    Jufi Guest

    The D3? Sharper? Than what, a boxy old D60? Check this link:

    http://clublexus.com/forums/showthread.php?t=326811

    D3 isn't all it's cracked up to be, not hardly, and not worth the money.
     
    Jufi, Feb 27, 2008
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  4. <YAWN>

    I had both and I will be sticking with the D3. Oh, before I forget, great
    tests that shows Nikon's aggressive AA filter. I like the lens/scope and it
    shows what the Mk III can do when you put real optics in front of it.
    Sadly, most Canon shooter don't use the proper lenses. I loved my Mk III
    with Nikkors in front of it. Now since you are done trolling you can take
    the sock off.





    Rita
     
    Rita Berkowitz, Feb 27, 2008
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  5. Savant

    Sosumi Guest

    Read this and start crying:

    http://photo.net/equipment/canon/1Ds_markIII/

    To sum it up:
    Difficult to find second curtain sync (must be set on the flash)
    No GPS, except with a 800.- WFT-E2A wireless file transmitter AND a separate
    GPS!
    No auto focus in Liveview mode
    Liveview degrades image quality
    Liveview heats the body so much, it can be permanently damaged (!)
    Compared to viewfinder, Liveview is 2-4 degrees out of whack
    So are the pictures
    Max ISO only 3200
    Only 5 fps

    Canon? C'mon! Are you into masochism, buy Canon.... LOL
     
    Sosumi, Feb 27, 2008
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    RichA Guest

    One focuses correctly, one doesn't?
     
    RichA, Feb 27, 2008
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    van dark Guest

    I am waiting for Canon Mk IVxD. It will be a competitor of D3. Wow! Izak
    Rabin

    Rita Berkowitz napsal(a):
     
    van dark, Feb 27, 2008
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  8. Savant

    Sosumi Guest

    Eh, you must be very young to have so much time?
     
    Sosumi, Feb 27, 2008
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  9. Savant

    Charles Guest

    Sadly, some posters don't have any verifiable data to back up what they
    post.
     
    Charles, Feb 28, 2008
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  10. Savant

    Charles Guest

    Buy a D300 for WAY more money than a 40D? The two are MUCH more equal than
    the cost. LOL
     
    Charles, Feb 28, 2008
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  11. Savant

    The Dave© Guest

    ....or, confuse biased subjective opinion with fact.
     
    The Dave©, Feb 28, 2008
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    jean Guest

    Er, the lens was focused manualy (no AF) and the focus was checked using the
    live view of each camera magnified to the maximum of each body and triple
    checked by 3 different people, as Flip Wilson used to say WYSIWYG!
     
    jean, Feb 28, 2008
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  13. Savant

    Sosumi Guest

    12 versus 10 MP
    bigger sensor (1.5 versus 1.6 crop)
    much better LCD screen
    GPS connection with just a cable, versus a 800.- WFT for Canon
    HDMI interface
    Flash system that runs circles around Canon
    No separate date/time battery needed
    Internal flash commander mode for wireless external flashes
    Format with 2 buttons; no menu scrolling needed
    Change flash options with two buttons, no menu needed.

    and the list goes on.

    You are right: they are exactly the same...
     
    Sosumi, Feb 28, 2008
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  14. Some suspect this chap of post processing the Canon image, but it really
    doesn't matter. From first hand experience I must say the Mk III does come
    alive when good glass is put in front of it. The Mk III is a superb camera,
    but if you can't use it with the lens system it was designed for it is a
    waste of money. The D3 is an amazing camera and its future replacement
    will, of course, be much better. The bottom line is to buy into the best
    lens system (Nikkor) and switch bodies on 18-month intervals. And hell, a
    lot of pro Canon shooters are coming over to the D3 just to be able to use a
    real wide angle lens, the 14-24/2.8.





    Rita
     
    Rita Berkowitz, Feb 28, 2008
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    Annika1980 Guest

    Hey moron, backfocus is not an issue with manual focus.
    Jean has already explained this to you.
    Using the Live View and magnifying the image 10x is a mch better
    method of attaining proper focus than looking through the small
    viewfinder. If you actually had a camera with Live View you would
    know this.
    Yeah, we all believe that you own a D3. NOT!
    Just like we all believe that crap about all your digital print
    centres and all those other Canon bodies that you own but rarely post
    any pics from.

    So go take a photo of the D3 right now and post it to prove me wrong.
    Otherwise, STFU because nobody is buying what yu're selling.


    The test proves the opposite of what you say. But every day is
    Opposite Day in your world.
    Why not post those images you supposedly made comparing the 20D, the
    5D, and the D3? We'd all sure love to see them. Were they also
    walking panos?
     
    Annika1980, Feb 28, 2008
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  16. Savant

    Annika1980 Guest

    Hey fool, it doesn't matter that you agree with it. Its the truth.
     
    Annika1980, Feb 28, 2008
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  17. Savant

    Savant Guest

    Wow! I am surprised by your opinion. I will have to read some more
    about the D3. Thanks.
    <a href="http://www.brucekersten.com">Long Island Photographer - Bruce
    Kersten Photography</a>
     
    Savant, Feb 28, 2008
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    jean Guest

    If it's done the same way for both cameras, then that removes the ever so
    critical diopter adjustment which changes from one person to the next. What
    you see on the screen is what will be recorded on the card, unless there is
    "some processing" involved which changes the focus of a manual focused lens,
    am I right in this assumption or not? Oh and don't forget, the Nikon has a
    MUCH higher resolution screen than the MK2, so the focus would have been
    much more precise no?

    All the white lenses I see on TV news must be used by amateurs or are they
    used by pros just waiting for their Nikons?
    That's just ONE test, if you can find another in the same vein with Nikon
    coming out on top, please post it, won't make me change my camera system but
    it could be enjoyable reading.
    If you read Chasseur d'Images and look at their tests of lenses on different
    camera bodies, you will see that lenses made by Nikon and Canon and all the
    others ALL have abberations (which are corrected by DxO, I use it too). Now
    tell me honestly, if Nikon lenses with Nikon bodies did not have any flaws,
    why would you need any of the corrections from DxO? I know there IS a
    difference even with Canon L lenses so I expect there would be with Nikon
    lenses too since DxO was developped by the testing labs used by Chasseur
    D'Images.
    Good, enjoy your equipment and use it well, and the more the pros dump their
    Canon stuff, the cheaper it will be for me, something I haven't seen
    happening yet! drat! (I'd put up with the lousy quality of a 500mm or 600mm
    f4 L any day, repeat, any day, if you have one for sale, contact me and
    since it's really crap, don't expect the price to be the same as a new one)

    Jean
     
    jean, Feb 28, 2008
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  19. Ahem... It's worse than you imagine! In *that* test,
    the Nikon D3 actually did come out on top. You have to
    read the whole thread (and perhaps the discussion about
    it on dpreview) though.

    It took a bit of work to get the RAW files from the OP,
    whose agenda and lack of technical knowledge were more
    significant than his claimed results from the cameras.

    In the end though, even the OP admitted the D3 produced
    superior results in his test. He had made at least
    three very fundamental mistakes. First, the software
    that he used was flawed. Second he was upsizing the
    Nikon image and not the Canon image, which of course has
    a dramatic effect. Third, he had underexposed all of
    the images by a serious amount.

    That is indeed a fact... However, your response below
    is absolutely valid!
    I use Nikon gear. Soon enough Canon will come out with
    a camera body that is better than the D3. I won't be
    switching then any more than you are now! Soon enough
    after that, Nikon will come out with another camera body
    that beats the Canon. It will be a never ending cycle
    (I hope), and we'll each buy at a peak in the cycle for
    the brand we use. How could life get better?!
     
    Floyd L. Davidson, Feb 28, 2008
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    Charles Guest

    Very underwhelming. Yawn.

    I notice that you did not mention image quality, dynamic rage, etc.
     
    Charles, Feb 28, 2008
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