Canon Rebel 350D/Rebel XT vs Nikon D70

Discussion in 'Nikon' started by Siddhartha Jain, Feb 18, 2005.

  1. Ok, someone had to do it. Now go ....

    - Siddhartha
    Siddhartha Jain, Feb 18, 2005
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    Alfred Molon Guest

    Obviously the camera with the higher resolution wins...
    Alfred Molon, Feb 18, 2005
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  3. What about smaller/lighter?
    Dave R knows who, Feb 18, 2005
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    Chuck Guest

    your like 2 days late ...
    Chuck, Feb 18, 2005
  5. No, isn't so easy!
    [email protected], Feb 18, 2005
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    Larry Guest

    ONLY if it takes better pictures.

    I have a Sony F-717, and a Sony F-828.

    The first is 5mp
    The second is *mp

    The first has only MINIMAL problem with fringing in a photo with strong
    backlighting or a small high contrast are (like sunlight or spotlight
    glinting of the gold/silver on a western saddle)

    The second has a problem with the purple fringing that is MUCH more
    pronounced.... Which one do you think Im going to use if Im shooting those

    The 5mp gets used MORE when I'm more likely to have backlighting or glinting
    in the picture. I want BETTER pictures, not BIGGER pictures.

    If Im forced to print an 8x10 from the 5mp shot, I would rather do it and NOT
    have the fringing, thank you very much.

    Im not much impressed with the quality of pictures from most of the 8mp
    cameras (non-DSLR) whether I'll be impressed with the ones from a DSLR
    remains to be seen. The sensors are larger, so the picture should have less

    What I've seen on-line looks good, but I didn't take them, so I dont know
    (for sure) whats been done to them between camera and website.
    Larry, Feb 18, 2005
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    Larry Guest

    That was SUPPOSED to be 8mp
    Larry, Feb 18, 2005
  8. I think he's looking for an informed comparison of the two (not just by
    the numbers), which I'd also like to see as I'm planning to make a
    purchase fairly soon.

    Randy. (who's still leaning toward the D70)
    Randy W. Sims, Feb 18, 2005
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    Sheldon Guest

    Well, let's put it this way: You wouldn't be making a mistake buying the
    D70, especially with all the rebates right now.
    Sheldon, Feb 18, 2005
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    Larry Guest

    I used a buddy's D70 for a weekend, and except for some moire on a couple of
    shots of a girl in a corduroy suit, I loved every shot I took.

    Its past being a good camera and almost into being a great camera, the only
    holdback being that one little problem.

    I just inherited a suitcase full of Canon glass (nobody died, it was given to
    me) and most of the lenses can be used in the Rebel or the New Rebel, so
    thats what has kept me from buy a D70.
    Larry, Feb 18, 2005
  11. I think Alfred forgot the smiley there...

    Chris Pollard

    CG Internet café, Tagum City, Philippines
    Christopher Pollard, Feb 19, 2005
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    Steve Cutchen, Feb 19, 2005
  13. I wouldn't get too excited about the difference in the sensor
    resolution between the D70 and the 350D. You really shouldn't become
    fixated on megapixels because there are a lot of other considerations
    to be made in the selection of a digital SLR. Actual image quality is
    one, but there are other functionality issues as well. Obviously it's
    too early for image quality comparisons, so look at the functionality
    issues for now:

    Functionally, the 350D has a few advantages:

    1. True USB 2.0 interface.
    2. Available vertical grip.
    3. Mirror lock-up.
    4. EF-s lenses, especially the EF-s 10-22, for which Nikon does not
    have something similar.

    The D70 has spot metering, which the EOS-350D doesn't have.

    Function-wise, the 350D is high-end consumer/low-end prosumer. I think
    that Canon may keep the 300D and drop the price, so they can have a
    very low-priced, "entry-level" D-SLR.

    Personally, I would not buy an SLR with no vertical grip, I just like
    vertical grips a lot. But the D70 does have an aftermarket vertical
    grip available, which is sufficient, if a bit of a kludge with
    connections via cables since the D70 has no connector for a grip.

    It looks like a shakeout is already occuring in digital SLRs, with
    everyone but Canon and Nikon becoming low-volume niche players.

    I think that Nikon will soon introduce three new digital SLRs (model
    numbers made up):

    D80. High-end consumer. Upgrade to the D70, with an 8 megapixel CMOS
    sensor, and mirror lock-up.

    D200. Prosumer. Answer to the 20D, with higher frame rate, 8 megapixel
    CMOS sensor, mirror lock-up and vertical grip. The D100 is obsolete.

    D3x. Full frame CMOS sensor. Answer to the Canon EOS 1Ds Mark II.

    Now that Nikon apparently is able to do a CMOS sensor, they will
    leverage this as soon as possible to go up against Canon in all
    Steven Scharf, Feb 19, 2005
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    Swriter33 Guest

    My D70 has mirror lock up... Am I missing something? I used it to
    clean the ccd.
    Swriter33, Feb 19, 2005
  15. Yeah. You're missing the idea that it would be nice to have mirror lock up for
    taking photos. The idea is, to flip up the mirror, and allow time for the
    resultant vibrations to die down before opening the shutter.

    Chris Pollard

    CG Internet café, Tagum City, Philippines
    Christopher Pollard, Feb 19, 2005
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    Alfred Molon Guest

    Unless you need the extra resolution. I wouldn't mind buying a 14 or
    22MP camera if the price was not too high. As for image quality, I'd
    guess the new 350 will produce images with (at the very least) good
    enough quality.
    Alfred Molon, Feb 19, 2005
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    Scharf-DCA Guest

    Yes. Every digital SLR has mirror lock-up for cleaning the sensor. The
    D70 doesn't have mirror lock-up for actually taking photos.
    Scharf-DCA, Feb 19, 2005
  18. Where is this critical? I was under the impression it was used only in
    slow shutter situations, on a tripod.

    Has not the mirror pop up and back improved over the years?
    John McWilliams, Feb 19, 2005
  19. I've been doing on-line research between Nikon D70 and Canon's 20D and
    Digital Rebel for some time. Also, I've spoken with several friends who
    have one system or the other and another friend who is a professional
    photographer. The preferences vary, but most folks are happy with what they

    Today, I went to the corner camera store and test drove a Digital Rebel and
    a Nikon D70. Huge difference in feel. The Canon was very small in my hands
    and was very light. The package lens felt fragile, and the controls had a
    cheap feel. In contrast, the Nikon body and kit lens had a much more solid
    feel. While weight isn't good when you're lugging it around for hours at a
    time, a camera is a tool, and should feel good in your hands.

    I'm waiting to play with a Rebel 350D before I make a decision, but right
    now, I'm leaning Nikon. I'll lean harder that way if they upgrade their
    sensor to 8mp...

    I still want to get a 20D in my hands, although I'm not sure I'm a serious
    enough user to spend the extra ~$500.

    Kyle Boatright, Feb 19, 2005
  20. Please post back your reflections on the 350D. Could be interesting!
    John McWilliams, Feb 19, 2005
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