Canon S1 IS versus Panasonic FZ20??

Discussion in 'Panasonic Lumix' started by spodosaurus, Dec 8, 2004.

  1. spodosaurus

    spodosaurus Guest

    Hi,

    My mother in law's Canon S1 IS was damaged beyond repair on a work trip
    and she's waiting on the insurance payment for it. However, I'm
    wondering if replacing the Canon S1 IS is really the best choice from
    the current models available. I'm thinking the Panasonic FZ20 with its
    5MPs may be a better choice for a similar price (remember, I'm in
    Australia, and Canon Australia tends to charge well above market value
    compared to Canon USA, and it really sucks). I don't have much energy
    right now to do the research for her (I helped her with the original
    Canon purchase, but right now my health is very poor and spending a long
    time researching this is not on the cards), so I'm hoping that this
    group could help me way the pros and cons of each camera so that I can
    better advise her.

    Thanks!

    Ari


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    spodosaurus, Dec 8, 2004
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  2. Both are good cameras - the Canon has better movie mode and takes AA
    batteries and CF cards, the Panasonic is the more capable camera, perhaps
    a little bigger, and takes SD cards and Li-ion batteries. I would suggest
    that handling the two cameras may be the deciding factor, everything else
    being equal. We have the Panasonic FZ20, the lens and extra pixels being
    the prime deciding factors.

    Cheers,
    David
     
    David J Taylor, Dec 8, 2004
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  3. spodosaurus

    spodosaurus Guest

    That AA battery aspect is good. She bought a charger and AA NiMH
    batteries with her original Canon purchase.
    I remember that olympus (and one other company...) disabled some
    features if you didn't use their brand of memory cards...I assume
    Panasonic hasn't done this...I might be thinking of xD cards, though,
    not SD cards.

    Are the lithium ion batteries for the FZ20 a proprietary type of
    battery? I know very little about lithium ion batteries.
    She may not be able to handle the FZ20, as she's looking to buy online,
    and I'm not too sure of which local retailers stock it, but that's a
    very good point.
    She's going to want to print at least A4 paper size photographs, and
    IIRC the Canon's 3MPs might be pushing that a bit hard, yes?


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    spodosaurus, Dec 8, 2004
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  4. spodosaurus wrote:
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    No such limitation with SD cards. We are using the high-speed Kingmax
    Platinum.
    Proprietary, but widely available.

    []
    "A bit" - yes. It does depend on how closely you want to look at the A4
    prints, though! Using a hand-lens? 5MP versus 3.2MP is an increase of
    linear resolution by just 25%, so it's not a major change, but it /is/ in
    the right direction.

    Cheers,
    David
     
    David J Taylor, Dec 8, 2004
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  5. spodosaurus

    SleeperMan Guest

    You must consider (as someone mentioned) that we're talking about two
    different price range cameras. If FZ20 is really 150-200 $ more expensive,
    that means almost 50 %...so, it's just nonsense to compare 400 $ camera with
    600$ one...
    If FZ20 (for so big bucks) functions would be similar (and no better) as S1,
    than noone would buy it, right?
    If you talk about FZ10, that's maybe closer in price, while surely functions
    are more limited comparing to FZ20...
    You really can't compare a Mercedes S600 with some Daewoo...
     
    SleeperMan, Dec 8, 2004
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  6. By implication is the S1 the Merc?

    Aerticeus
     
    Aerticulean Effort, Dec 8, 2004
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  7. The FZ20 doesn't do RAW either, just uncompressed TIF.
     
    Bob the Printer, Dec 9, 2004
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  8. spodosaurus

    Bruce Graham Guest

    I'm in Australia too...

    Local prices seem to be about A$600-700 for the Canon and A$830-1000 for
    the FZ20.

    My daughter just ordered an FZ20 at $1000 but with free prints and
    training thrown in. She was concerned to get an official import to
    protect her warranty. It is my understanding that Canon Australia will
    not warrant grey imports and I don't know about Panasonic. As others
    have said, the Pana FZ3 is price competitive with the Canon S1-IS.

    If you look at forum threads in dpreview.com you will find some useful
    comparisons in the Panasonic talk.
     
    Bruce Graham, Dec 9, 2004
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  9. spodosaurus

    spodosaurus Guest

    She was basing her figures on buying the replacement Canon from a
    brick-and-mortar shop versus the FZ20 online. I think I can convince her
    to go online if she decides to replace the Canon with another S1 IS. The
    $200+ savings should be sufficient motivation.
    That's correct.
    I'll have to have a look at that one. I know nothing about it.

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    I'm going to die rather sooner than I'd like. I tried to protect my
    neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. To jump to the end
    of the story, as a result of this I need a bone marrow transplant. Many
    people around the world are waiting for a marrow transplant, too. Please
    volunteer to be a marrow donor:
    http://www.abmdr.org.au/
    http://www.marrow.org/
     
    spodosaurus, Dec 9, 2004
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    SleeperMan Guest

    After reading about FZ20, it's more like Daewoo...
     
    SleeperMan, Dec 9, 2004
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  11. spodosaurus

    Bruce Graham Guest

    Local camera stores in Melbourne are selling the S1-IS for about A$639-
    A$669 right now. Teds and Michaels have free prints included in that
    price.
     
    Bruce Graham, Dec 10, 2004
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