Canon Software - Worth Keeping?

Discussion in 'Canon' started by Wilba, May 6, 2008.

  1. Wilba

    Wilba Guest

    That's Autostitch, not Autopano. :)
     
    Wilba, May 8, 2008
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  2. Wilba

    Wilba Guest

    Ah, so what you meant was, if _I_ want to use TIFFs, ZoomBrowser might be
    worth keeping. Got ya, thanks.
     
    Wilba, May 8, 2008
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  3. Wilba

    Alienjones Guest

    Here's a flash for you Wolfgang...
    Get rid of that useless free crap called Debian which is steeped in
    developer disagreement and use Windows.

    It'll work just fine then. Otherwise you'll have to keep putting up with
    that God awful free crap and never know how good your pictures could
    actually be.

    Douglas,
    at home
     
    Alienjones, May 8, 2008
    #23
  4. Have you stopped beating your wife?
    It's not a problem of my system.
    It's the simple fact that DPP is not compatible.
    Won't run any better. Wanna bet?

    -Wolfgang
     
    Wolfgang Weisselberg, May 8, 2008
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  5. Wilba

    Pat Guest

    Find someone in school. Buy the education version. CS3. Cheap compared to
    camera gear. It has the tools to make make great products.
     
    Pat, May 8, 2008
    #25
  6. more shooting, more experience, ...

    You can go a long way with the Gimp (free --- though, just
    like Photoshop, you have to *learn* how to use it!) and a
    good/flexible RAW converter.

    If you ever reach real walls using Gimp --- that means, you
    have learned all and you know why you need some functions and
    tools that are not available there, and you cannot build them
    yourself or get someone to build them --- then you know if
    you want Photoshop.

    However, if it's a question of "I feel much happier with (a
    new lens|a different body|some other programs), as the
    current state of things stops me using the camera as often as
    I would otherwise" ... well, go ahead, buy it.

    Download an unlicensed copy or go ahead and steal a box version
    from some shop. It's just as honest. Robbery, though, would be
    over the top.

    If you don't like the price policy, stick with free (as in
    beer) and or free (as in speech) software.

    -Wolfgang
     
    Wolfgang Weisselberg, May 8, 2008
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  7. Wilba

    Robert Coe Guest

    :
    : : >
    : >> DPP is unrivaled in RAW conversions.
    : >
    : > There are no other RAW converters? I beg to differ. I know
    : > of quite a few that (unlike DPP) actually happen to run on my
    : > computers ...
    :
    : None are as good. Only DPP reveals the true details of the CR2.
    : If you know how to use DPP, it won't crash...

    That statement is false. The latest version will often crash if used on a .JPG
    file downloaded from a Powershot S50. And I do know how to use DPP, as I've
    been doing so ever since my wife and I got our XTi's about 20 months ago.

    That said, I agree with the other good things said about DPP. One point that
    hasn't been raised in this thread is that it has an excellent cropping tool,
    by far the best one I've ever used. OTOH, it has no redeye removal, and its
    hiding of blemishes is clumsy and not very effective.

    Bob
     
    Robert Coe, May 9, 2008
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  8. Wilba

    Robert Coe Guest

    : : > I've just installed some apps from the current EOS Digital Solution Disk
    : > (17.1) - CameraWindow, Digital Photo Professional, EOS Utility,
    : > PhotoStitch, RAW Image Task, and ZoomBrowser EX.
    : >
    : > I already have Photoshop CS3, and use things like ACDSee Pro and
    : > AutoStitch for some tasks. For the number of shots I take, I don't have
    : > any current requirements for fancy workflow tools. Things might change as
    : > I get into working with raw files, but I'm not sure how.
    : >
    : > I'm interested in what you've found in the Canon software that is worth
    : > keeping.
    : >
    : > CameraWindow doesn't seem to work at all (with a 450D).
    : >
    : > The EOS Utility seems like the only thing that adds any real value.
    : >
    : > Opinions? Ideas? Thanks!
    : >
    : I like the ZoomBrowser for reviewing pictures, both as thumbnails and in a
    : slide show. I also use the renumbering features in ZoomBrowser to renumber
    : the pictures after I have organized them.

    DPP's renumbering capability is just as good as Zoombrowser's.

    Bob
     
    Robert Coe, May 9, 2008
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  9. Wilba

    Guest Guest

    Find someone in school. Buy the education version. CS3. Cheap compared to
    camera gear. It has the tools to make make great products.[/QUOTE]

    or just get photoshop elements for under $100 (often much less). it's
    highly unlikely that the original poster will need the additional
    features in the full suite.

    in any event, getting it right in the camera is preferable than fussing
    with photoshop or any other manipulation tool.
     
    Guest, May 9, 2008
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  10. Wilba

    Wilba Guest

    Do you mean the trimming tool?

    I can't find a way to do an arbitrary rotation in DPP.
     
    Wilba, May 9, 2008
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  11. Wilba

    Robert Coe Guest

    : Robert Coe wrote:
    : >
    : > One point that hasn't been raised in this thread is that it has an
    : > excellent cropping tool, by far the best one I've ever used.
    :
    : Do you mean the trimming tool?

    Yeah, they use the term "trimming", but I think most photographers (at least
    most refugees from the film era) would say "cropping". In DPP you can set the
    aspect ratio in advance and then move and resize the frame at will.

    : I can't find a way to do an arbitrary rotation in DPP.

    No, that's one of its glaring omissions. It appears that DPP pretty much
    confines itself to lossless, reversible transformations. Arbitrary rotations
    are lossless in principle, I suppose, but you'd have to use arithmetic of
    infinite precision to accomplish it.

    BTW, DPP isn't exactly unique in omitting arbitrary rotations; I can't find it
    in Zoombrowser either. (Gimp does have it, I think.) P&S cameras, especially,
    really need the feature too: when you frame a picture on an LCD viewing
    screen, you're a lot more likely to get the horizon wrong. (At least I am.)

    Bob
     
    Robert Coe, May 10, 2008
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  12. Wilba

    Wilba Guest

    It's a rare photo that I don't have to rotate to satify my insatiable need
    for perfection. :-D

    The other thing I like with the Photoshop crop tool is the way it does
    perspective correction. I think DPP is just too basic for me, but I'll see
    how it goes with converting raw images. Thanks.
     
    Wilba, May 10, 2008
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  13. Wilba

    OldBoy Guest

    Basic for free, $1000+ for basic+ :)
     
    OldBoy, May 10, 2008
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  14. Wilba

    Focus Guest

    Don't use DPP for browsing. Try another like Bridge and then open a JPG in
    DPP. So far I can open and adjust JPG's from Nikon, Canon, Sony, etc without
    any crash.
     
    Focus, May 10, 2008
    #34
  15. Wilba

    Robert Coe Guest

    :
    : : > :
    : > : : > : >
    : > : >> DPP is unrivaled in RAW conversions.
    : > : >
    : > : > There are no other RAW converters? I beg to differ. I know
    : > : > of quite a few that (unlike DPP) actually happen to run on my
    : > : > computers ...
    : > :
    : > : None are as good. Only DPP reveals the true details of the CR2.
    : > : If you know how to use DPP, it won't crash...
    : >
    : > That statement is false. The latest version will often crash if used on a
    : > .JPG file downloaded from a Powershot S50. And I do know how to use DPP,
    : > as I've been doing so ever since my wife and I got our XTi's about 20
    : > months ago.
    :
    : Don't use DPP for browsing. Try another like Bridge and then open a JPG in
    : DPP.

    The crash is not limited to browsing, although that's where I see it most
    often, since browsong exposes many images to DPP. The problem occurs randomly,
    so sometimes a given image will open correctly and sometimes not.

    : So far I can open and adjust JPG's from Nikon, Canon, Sony, etc without
    : any crash.

    Have you tried it on any JPG images taken with a Powershot S50? The crashes
    I've seen have been exclusively on JPG's taken with the S50 (two or three
    different cameras) and not on those taken with other Canon models.

    Bob
     
    Robert Coe, May 10, 2008
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  16. Wilba

    Focus Guest

    If you post some I can try. I don't have the S50, but I can see what it does
    with pictures of it.
    I did have some crash problems at first and I called the helpdesk. They
    found out that my printer software was the problem! After deleting that (HP
    Officejet 5610) and re-installing the software, most problems were gone. But
    the browsing still crashed often.
     
    Focus, May 11, 2008
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