Canon: "Some of our lenses...may not be good enough"

Discussion in 'Canon' started by RichA, Oct 3, 2008.

  1. RichA

    RichA Guest

    From dpreview:

    Moving on to SLRs, cameras such as the EOS 50D and 5D Mark II are
    stretching the capabilities of lenses harder than ever. What are your
    priorities for lens development?

    "We are aware of course that a small number of lenses out of over
    60 in the current lineup may not be good enough for cameras such as
    the 5D Mark II. Since I took total responsibility for all digital SLR
    and lenses my first mission is to ensure that all lenses are capable
    of matching the latest SLRs, and also to develop and deliver new
    technologies to improve further the quality of new lenses."
    RichA, Oct 3, 2008
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    dwight Guest

    Interesting. For once, you've posted GOOD news.

    dwight, Oct 3, 2008
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  3. RichA

    RichA Guest

    18 megapixels isn't insignificant, you definitely need top-flight
    lenses to maximize its output. 1. Its resolution is high. So you
    need lenses with excellent control of spherical aberration, accurate
    surface profiles and good polish and coatings. 2. You need lenses
    that can support a 35mm frame size without too much aberration, unless
    you don't care about the edge.
    RichA, Oct 3, 2008
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    Ray Fischer Guest

    No duh? Canon makes some "budget" lenses. Everybody does.

    By the way, you're "quote" in the subject line appears nowhere in the
    article. It's obviously another fabrication of yours.
    Ray Fischer, Oct 4, 2008
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    Ray Fischer Guest

    And the 21MP 5DII is even less insignificant.
    Ray Fischer, Oct 4, 2008
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    J. Clarke Guest

    It's close enough. Geez, some people will pick nits just to be
    picking nits.
    J. Clarke, Oct 4, 2008
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    Charles Guest

    If the lenses were good enough, in fact could outperform the cameras,
    then the cameras would not be good enough for the lenses.

    No win.
    Charles, Oct 4, 2008
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    Me Guest

    Rita Berkowitz wrote:
    Wrong. Edge sharpness _sucks_ on full frame, even stopped down.
    Me, Oct 4, 2008
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    Ofnuts Guest

    Digital Still Camera, IIRC
    Ofnuts, Oct 4, 2008
  10. Digital Still Camera? In other words, the so-called "point and shoot"?

    David J Taylor, Oct 5, 2008
  11. Very helpful then of Sony to label the output image files of their
    DSLRs "DSCnnnnnn" :)
    Chris Malcolm, Oct 5, 2008
  12. I'd buy the Canon tomorow if I could fit Nikon or Leica lenses to it! Maybe
    the move to higher resolution sensors for Canon digital cameras will signal
    a wake up call to the company to increase the overall quality of their range
    of lenses- that is no criticism of Canon by the way, Nikon and Pentax have
    produced some stinkers in their time too!
    NigelCummings, Oct 5, 2008
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    J. Clarke Guest

    You can. Most Nikon manual focus lenses and just about all Leica R
    lenses will work with suitable adapters, which are commercially
    J. Clarke, Oct 5, 2008
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    Ofnuts Guest

    AFAIK this also includes SLRs (and even more so since until the D90
    DSLRs didn't feature a video mode)
    Ofnuts, Oct 5, 2008
  15. Yes, I would have thought so as well. Hence my question marks. It may be
    a Canon division name or something like that as the two quotes mentioning
    DSC are:

    "Mr Maeda has been with Canon Inc since 1974 and is currently the head
    of the entire camera division, covering both DSC and the EOS DSLR system."

    "What our readers want to know - and what we want to know - is this; is
    there any chance of Canon making high-end compacts that don't have more
    pixels, but have better pixels, to fill the big gap between DSC and DSLR?"

    David J Taylor, Oct 5, 2008
  16. Well put. Back in the "bad ol' days" of film ("the sensor"...;-),
    the same was true. Improving either the lens or the film resolution
    improved the image resolution, but it would always be worse than
    the lower resolution of either, an often frustrating truth even when
    one shoved both very high film resolution and very high lens
    resolution into the equation - and even then, the results would not
    be quite as sharp as might be hoped for, and (due to printing or
    projection limitations) were often further not up to one's expectations
    for the outcome due to image sharpness loss from using too-slow
    hand-held shutter speeds and/or non-optimum lens stops with the
    sharper slow films unless the light levels were high or a tripod was
    lugged along for making the photos. With digital, maybe things are
    better. ;-) But then, there is still that "contrast vs. resolution" business
    with lenses (let alone that harder-edged, but sharper-looking, "bad
    bokeh" vs. the softer edged and less sharp looking "good bokeh"
    from lenses...), making it hard to optimize everything at once
    including making the sharpest possible image, if that is what one
    is after...;-)

    [My apologies for what must be a "mess" above...8^]
    David Ruether, Oct 5, 2008
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    Paul Furman Guest

    I changed that to my initials for my Nikon, then the new on I'm going
    with added numerals: 000, then 001, etc.

    Paul Furman

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    Paul Furman, Oct 5, 2008
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    RichA Guest

    Ouch! I didn't realize. At 21MP, it'll even give the "red band of
    shame" lenses a run for their money.
    RichA, Oct 6, 2008
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    RichA Guest

    Admitting to the problem is only the first step in the "bad lenses
    anonymous" program. Now they have to make some good lenses and (I
    believe) apologize to all the people they've f------ over the years
    with flawed products.
    RichA, Oct 6, 2008
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    RichA Guest

    Oh but you can. Ever see a 5D shooter with a Nikon or Leica? All it
    takes is a cheap adapter. Of course you lose the infamous Canon AF,
    but then who cares?
    RichA, Oct 6, 2008
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