Canon T2i RAW in Photoshop CS3

Discussion in 'Digital SLR' started by JimG, Sep 2, 2010.

  1. JimG

    JimG Guest

    My T2i arrived this week and, as I was happily snapping test photos and
    loading them into Photoshop, I was surprised to realize that CS3 does not
    recognize the T2i's RAW format. I goggled for some help and, as I
    understand it, 5.6 is the last Camera RAW plug-in update for CS3 and 5.7 is
    the first plug-in update that includes the T2i. In other words, I can't use
    Canon's native RAW ( .CR2) in Photoshop CS3 as I had hoped.

    After some more goggling it appears I can load the 5.6 update into Photoshop
    CS3, run the T2i RAW photos (with a .CR2 extension) through the Adobe DNG
    Converter, and then open those converted RAW photos (now with a .DNG
    extension) in Photoshop. This seems to work.

    My question then become, other than the conversion step, is do the DNG
    photos contain all of the information that was contained in the CR2 photos?
    Is there any advantage to savings the CR2 photos once they are converted to
    DNG photos?
     
    JimG, Sep 2, 2010
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  2. JimG

    Guest Guest

    cs3 uses camera raw 4.x.
    cs4 uses 5.x.
    cs5 uses 6.x.
    either you have cs4 & 5.6 or cs3 & 4.6. cs3 will not see camera raw 5.

    however, you can use the dng converter to convert your raw file to dng,
    as long as it supports your camera. once it's dmg, use that in almost
    any app that can handle dng, including photoshop cs3 with an older
    camera raw. the latest camera raw is 6.2 and you might as well use
    that.
    theoretically no, but there might be minor things missing like metadata.
     
    Guest, Sep 2, 2010
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  3. JimG

    Guest Guest

    yep, camera raw 6 is much better, but it should work in photoshop
    elements which is not pricey. or, get lightroom instead and keep cs3
    for more elaborate retouching if needed.
     
    Guest, Sep 2, 2010
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  4. JimG

    Kyle Abhams Guest

    Or you could use PhotoLine and not bother with any of this nonsense.
     
    Kyle Abhams, Sep 2, 2010
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  5. JimG

    JimG Guest

    I checked Amazon and the CS3>CS5 is ~$200 but the upgrade CS3>CS5 Extended
    is ~$400. The upgrade for the full web suite is ~$850.

    This is food for thought but not this week after dropping $900 for the T2i.
     
    JimG, Sep 2, 2010
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  6. JimG

    Peter Guest


    $200 for the upgrade, from Adobe. And well worth it.
     
    Peter, Sep 2, 2010
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  7. JimG

    Robert Coe Guest

    :
    : >
    : > My question then become, other than the conversion step, is do the DNG
    : > photos contain all of the information that was contained in the CR2
    : > photos?
    :
    : I'm quite sure that the only thing you'd lose would be mfr-specific things,
    : such as "Picture Style" and the other in-camera jpeg settings.
    :
    : > Is there any advantage to savings the CR2 photos once they are converted
    : > to DNG photos?
    :
    : If you want to see how Canon's DPP does on your files, you need the CR2
    : files. I not a DPP fan, but a lot of people insist that its conversion is
    : better for both detail and skin color than Adobe's conversion.

    I'm a DPP user; but I won't make that claim, because I've never used
    Photoshop's conversion.

    But what I do know is that DPP has always had some hooks to interface with
    Photoshop. So you might check to see whether DPP makes its RAW files more
    Photoshop-friendly in that context than when they're fed directly to
    Photoshop.

    Bob
     
    Robert Coe, Sep 3, 2010
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  8. JimG

    Robert Coe Guest

    : I checked Amazon and the CS3>CS5 is ~$200 but the upgrade CS3>CS5 Extended
    : is ~$400. The upgrade for the full web suite is ~$850.
    :
    : This is food for thought but not this week after dropping $900 for the T2i.

    I think you'll like your T2i, though. My wife has one, and it produces very
    nice images.

    Bob
     
    Robert Coe, Sep 3, 2010
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  9. JimG

    Ron Guest

    You might try:

    http://www.breezesys.com/BreezeBrowser/index.htm

    It won't replace your CS3, but it will convert your RAW photos to TIFF or
    JPG and allow a number of adjustments during the conversion. You can
    download a copy for a free trial.

    Ron
     
    Ron, Sep 4, 2010
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  10. JimG

    Robert Coe Guest

    :
    : : > My T2i arrived this week and, as I was happily snapping test photos and
    : > loading them into Photoshop, I was surprised to realize that CS3 does not
    : > recognize the T2i's RAW format. I goggled for some help and, as I
    : > understand it, 5.6 is the last Camera RAW plug-in update for CS3 and 5.7
    : > is the first plug-in update that includes the T2i. In other words, I
    : > can't use Canon's native RAW ( .CR2) in Photoshop CS3 as I had hoped.
    : >
    : > After some more goggling it appears I can load the 5.6 update into
    : > Photoshop CS3, run the T2i RAW photos (with a .CR2 extension) through the
    : > Adobe DNG Converter, and then open those converted RAW photos (now with a
    : > .DNG extension) in Photoshop. This seems to work.
    : >
    : > My question then become, other than the conversion step, is do the DNG
    : > photos contain all of the information that was contained in the CR2
    : > photos? Is there any advantage to savings the CR2 photos once they are
    : > converted to DNG photos?
    : >
    : You might try:
    :
    : http://www.breezesys.com/BreezeBrowser/index.htm
    :
    : It won't replace your CS3, but it will convert your RAW photos to TIFF or
    : JPG and allow a number of adjustments during the conversion. You can
    : download a copy for a free trial.

    Digital Photo Professional does pretty much the same thing and is free to a
    user of any moderately serious Canon camera. A CD containing it is included
    with the T2i, and the latest updates are available on the Canon Web site.

    Bob
     
    Robert Coe, Sep 4, 2010
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  11. I do use DPP. However, the results are frequently inferior to using Photoshop CS2
    and its converter (for my Canon 30D). The killer is blown highlights. DPP
    simply won't let you expose as much without ruined highlights. I take
    lots of photos of things like waterfalls, and this is a big problem
    because of the large dynamic range.

    Doug McDonald
     
    Doug McDonald, Sep 4, 2010
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  12. JimG

    Robert Coe Guest

    : On 9/4/2010 12:27 PM, Robert Coe wrote:
    :
    : >
    : > Digital Photo Professional does pretty much the same thing and is free to a
    : > user of any moderately serious Canon camera. A CD containing it is included
    : > with the T2i, and the latest updates are available on the Canon Web site.
    :
    : I do use DPP. However, the results are frequently inferior to using Photoshop
    : CS2 and its converter (for my Canon 30D). The killer is blown highlights.
    : DPP simply won't let you expose as much without ruined highlights. I take
    : lots of photos of things like waterfalls, and this is a big problem
    : because of the large dynamic range.

    What is CS2 (or its successors) able to do for blown highlights that DPP cna't
    do? If the RAW image has a pure white pixel, what can a photo editor do with
    it, other than graying it down? And how is that different from simply lowering
    the contrast or the color saturation?

    Bob
     
    Robert Coe, Sep 4, 2010
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