Canon vs. usb mass storage

Discussion in 'Photography' started by Paul in Houston TX, May 30, 2011.

  1. For just moving files from the camera to a computer, it
    makes no difference at all. But PTP enables a very
    different set of functionality than Mass Storage, and
    that is very significant.

    If you want to use the camera tethered, PTP. If you
    want to edit or otherwise write to the memory card, Mass
    Storage.
     
    Floyd L. Davidson, May 31, 2011
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  2. It might be a Linux thing.
     
    Charles E Hardwidge, Jun 1, 2011
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  3. That response was to someone running a Windows system, so
    that doesn't make a lot of sense, eh?

    Actually that response is just ignorant, that's all. You
    snipped the context, but it is obvious that he has no idea
    that there is a difference between PTP and USB mass storage.
    You probably don't either...
     
    Floyd L. Davidson, Jun 1, 2011
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  4. Paul in Houston TX

    PeterN Guest

    But he know more than most around here about photography, and what
    constitutes a good photo. He also can express a reasoned POV without the
    need to insult. And importantly, he admits being wrong when he is.
    Unless the photographer has a need to tether his camera to his computer,
    it is a distinction without a real difference difference.
     
    PeterN, Jun 1, 2011
    #24
  5. I haven't noticed most of those qualities... and I have looked.
    So, unless it is important it isn't? Hmmm...
     
    Floyd L. Davidson, Jun 1, 2011
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  6. Paul in Houston TX

    PeterN Guest

    If I have no use for a feature I don't care if the camera has it. Of
    course if for some reason I had to know about a feature, then it becomes
    important, at least to me. PTP is not important to me and I really don't
    care about it. But I would not belittle you if you felt it important.
     
    PeterN, Jun 1, 2011
    #26
  7. Nobody belittled anyone. Why are you ragging on that?

    Regardless, your attitude about features is not one that
    suggests much thought. You may or may not have any need
    for a feature today, but a week or a year down the road
    when the need for it arises, suddenly it is important
    that the camera had it to start with.

    My view is that it is important that my camera have what
    I need *before* I suddenly discover that need, not
    after. I in no way assume that I knew everything I'd
    need a camera to do on the day I bought it, and would
    like to think that the manufacturer had a much better
    idea of what that might be than I did.

    Granted that I try pretty hard to learn what the camera
    will do, and with a new one typically go through the
    instruction manual page by page trying out every thing it
    does. But I still find others suggesting things that I was
    simply in total ignorance of.
     
    Floyd L. Davidson, Jun 1, 2011
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  8. Paul in Houston TX

    PeterN Guest

    My greatest weakness is that I totally lack the ability to predict the
    future and cannot anticipate all of my future needs. Therefore I don't
    worry about the efficiency of current features I don't currently use.
    Yes, I'm the guy who didn't see the need for a 5MB HD. By the time I
    discovered my need the price had dropped by several thousand dollars,
    and I had use of the money.
     
    PeterN, Jun 1, 2011
    #28
  9. Paul in Houston TX

    tony cooper Guest

    I am one of those that are "ignorant" of the distinction you make.
    However, I just hooked up my Nikon D60 tethered to my laptop, shot
    some images, and it worked without a problem.

    It's a good way to do "tabletop" photography because you can instantly
    see the composition full-screen on the laptop and adjust the
    positioning and the lighting.

    You are knowledgeable, Floyd, but I can't remember a thread when your
    arrogance hasn't outweighed your knowledge. Just the use of
    "ignorant", instead of the more neutral "uninformed" is arrogance.

    You *do* belittle, and unnecessarily so. It's just as easy to
    contribute knowledge without the belittling and arrogance. You come
    across as the type of person in a work environment that everyone knows
    will have the answer, but no one wants to ask for fear of being made
    to look foolish.
     
    tony cooper, Jun 1, 2011
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  10. Ya know Tony, I have *never* posted an article like that one.
    What you described was someone who writes articles like that,
    and I never done that even one time. Interesting, eh?
     
    Floyd L. Davidson, Jun 1, 2011
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  11. WTF was all that shit behind my killfile? I actually skimmed through the
    quoted material and not one of the boneheads actually posted *anything*
    explaining anything. Who needs that? Way to kill what's left of usenet.
     
    Charles E Hardwidge, Jun 1, 2011
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  12. Paul in Houston TX

    tony cooper Guest

    Article? What article?
    This sentence doesn't make sense. Even corrected for grammar it
    doesn't make sense. What, or where, are the articles to which you
    refer?
     
    tony cooper, Jun 1, 2011
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  13. Paul in Houston TX

    Guest

    Am Montag, 30. Mai 2011 16:17:13 UTC+2 schrieb Paul in Houston TX:
    Answer to the original poster is as follows:

    Connect the camera over USB to the computer and turn it on, as usual.

    in Windows XP, in the Windows Transfer Pictures from camera Assistant, in the middle of its opening comment, choose "For Advanced Users Only"*. This is plain folder access to the camera (verified today).

    in Windows 7, in "Devices and Printers", choose the canon camera, then you see "Browse files". This should result in plain folder access (presumed).

    (look here, image at point 4 is in english for Win7: http://de.canon.ch/Support/Consumer....aspx?faqtcmuri=tcm:88-712200&page=1&type=faq

    This avoids the PTP troubles, without MSC, without drive letter, without unmounting after use.

    This is an old post, and interestingly appears also on Photography-forums.com.
     
    , Feb 20, 2014
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  14. Paul in Houston TX

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    Answer to the original poster is as follows:

    Connect the camera over USB to the computer and turn it on, as usual.

    in Windows XP, in the Windows Transfer Pictures from camera Assistant, in the middle of its opening comment, choose "For Advanced Users Only"*. This is plain folder access to the camera (verified today).

    in Windows 7, in "Devices and Printers", choose the canon camera, then you see "Browse files". This should result in plain folder access (presumed).

    (on a canon page , FAQ to canon ixus 850 is is an image at point 4 in english for Win7.

    This avoids the PTP troubles, without MSC, without drive letter, without unmounting after use.

    This is an old issue, and interestingly appears also on google groups.
     
    photo19feb2014, Feb 20, 2014
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  15. Thanks, but I have since bought two Panasonic cameras instead
    of the Canon.
     
    Paul in Houston TX, Feb 20, 2014
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