Canon's response to Nikon 10MP

Discussion in 'Nikon' started by chasfs, Jul 28, 2006.

  1. chasfs

    chasfs Guest

    I'm getting excited by all of the new camera talk from Nikon! And
    guessing about the competitive moves from the competition.

    The Rebel XT is getting cheaper at Costco, and rumor has it that the
    30D is getting cheaper too. Will Canon put out a 10MP version of the
    30D next? Or maybe 11MP, so its less MP than the 5D, but still more
    than the new Nikon. How long until a Rebel 10+ MP?

    And what about Sony? Will a 12MP version of the DSC-R1 hit the stores
    in time for the holidays?

    chasfs, Jul 28, 2006
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    Steve Wolfe Guest

    I'm getting excited by all of the new camera talk from Nikon! And
    They'll release a full-frame, 20-megapixel camera that will shoot 10 FPS
    with enough buffer for 200 shots, it will take SD or CF, use lithium-ion or
    AA batteries, shoot 10,000 images on a charge, will have 802.11g wireless, a
    4" LCD, weather-sealing, 107-point autofocus, anti-dust, anti-shake, and
    cost $200.

    And someone will still complain because they find some slight chromatic
    aberration at 200% magnification, blaming it on the sensor.

    Steve Wolfe, Jul 28, 2006
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  3. Aw, crap. It should have GPS, blue tooth and an MP3 player, text
    messaging, and......
    John McWilliams, Jul 28, 2006

  4. And lets all hope it has a phone. If it has a phone I'll buy two!!
    Robert R Kircher, Jr., Jul 28, 2006
  5. Only if its a satphone!

    Gerrit - Oz (where coverage for normal GSM is non existent outside of
    populated areas)
    Gerrit 't Hart, Jul 28, 2006
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    Mark² Guest

    If it's a 10+ MP cropped CMOS that still delivers noiseless images at ISO
    400+, with at least 5fps and a spot meter...I'll buy it immediately. Any
    part of that missing and I'll keep milking my 10D behind my 5D. The 30D is
    actually very tempting already as it has everything on that list save for a
    couple MP, but I think the 30D is a stop-gap--much the way the D60 was
    between the D30 and the 10D release.
    It won't surprise me at all to see the 30D replaced this fall, and possibly
    the 1 series.

    -But who cares what I think?
    Mark², Jul 28, 2006
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    C J Southern Guest

    The 1Ds Mk. II replacement (rumoured to be a 22mp unit) is due out in around
    6 months - it wouldn't surprice me if they simply shifted the price of all
    existing models down to the price of the current model below it - so the
    likes of the 30D becomes entry level, followed closely by the 5D at where
    the 30D is now.

    Hope so.
    C J Southern, Jul 28, 2006
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    Mark² Guest

    I doubt that very much.
    They seem more inclined to keep their price points fairly stable, choosing
    instead to bump the specs up under those price points.
    The 5D may be replaced before long, but I doubt you'll see it drop by half
    as you suggest.
    It doesn't hurt to hope...though I already have the 5D, and it's worth every
    bit of its current price.
    Mark², Jul 28, 2006
  9. I think you overestimate the ability of the competition to respond to
    specific products. Digital SLR cameras are incredibly complex and
    expensive things to design and produce. No company is in a position to
    look at the competition's latest product, say "we'll better that," and 6
    weeks later have a factory tooled up to turn out a whole new product.

    There are no directly competing products being produced, just the next
    steps along roadmaps that where generated years ago. The best they can
    do is exercise some discretion with marketing and pricing to get their
    new products into the market alongside the latest products of the
    Derek Fountain, Jul 28, 2006
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    C J Southern Guest

    True, but then again I doubt the likes of Canon will have been sitting idle
    waiting to see what the competition comes out with before starting work on
    their own competing product.

    Most seem to come out with products that are fairly predictable linear
    increases over previous models.
    C J Southern, Jul 28, 2006
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    Helen Guest

    Rich will complain because the battery compartment door has a plastic catch.
    Helen, Jul 28, 2006
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    cjcampbell Guest

    I would expect Canon to bring out a 12Mp 30D. My guess is that they
    will never do a 10Mp camera.
    cjcampbell, Jul 28, 2006
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    cjcampbell Guest

    And, I should add, a 12Mp 30D will not necessarily be 'better' than the
    current one. A return to the megapixel race would have a terrible
    effect on picture quality. The 30D is fine as it is.
    cjcampbell, Jul 28, 2006
  14. True, but then again I doubt the likes of Canon will have been sitting idle
    Canon won't have been idle, they'll have been working steadily on the
    product range they started planning 2 or 3 years ago. Canon seem more
    interested in turning out a new device on a very regular basis, rather
    than turning out devices on a non-regular time interval but that push
    feature boundaries. The 30D was widely seen as an almost trivial update
    to the 20D.

    In some industries the major players publish their product road maps
    years in advance (like with computer CPUs, for example). I guess if
    camera manufacturers did that no one would ever buy their recent products!
    Derek Fountain, Jul 28, 2006
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    SkipM Guest

    Somehow, I doubt that Canon will drop the price of the 5D by about $1000US.
    That exceeds the definition of wishful thinking...
    SkipM, Jul 28, 2006
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    Bill K Guest

    Bill K, Jul 28, 2006
  17. With VPN access to your home server, so all your images can be sendt to your
    file server @ home... ;-)

    BTW, 20 Mp is not good enough. Let's make that 80 Mp. It should also have a
    10-1000 mm F 1,2 zoom...
    Jørn Dahl-Stamnes, Jul 28, 2006
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    dylan Guest

    I'm waiting for the Canon 3D.

    The Canon EOS3 came after the EOS 1(&N) and EOS 5 and offered a
    'cheaper' amateur body but with more AF sensors etc. We have had the
    EOS1D range and now the EOS5D so I'm hoping...
    dylan, Jul 28, 2006
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    Mark² Guest

    I was hoping for the 3D a while back, but finally settled on the 5D.
    I think the fake 3D (smaller, but permanently-connected viertical grip) as
    concocted last year by rumor generators would sell a gozillion, but Canon
    has to decide what they want to do.
    Mark², Jul 28, 2006
  20. Well, all righty, then. I think we forgot ISO .01 -> 180,000. And built
    in CSI software so we can read the fine print on the document 2 miles
    away and at right angles....before downloading to our special PCs with
    the zoom features.....

    I guess Blue tooth would be redundant with wireless firewire??
    John McWilliams, Jul 28, 2006
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