Cant get firewire working.....

Discussion in 'Amateur Video Production' started by geronimo, Jul 15, 2007.

  1. geronimo

    geronimo Guest

    I have a pc with win xp sp2. I have Vegas video, video capturix, ulead
    video studio 8. Have samsung mini- DV camcorder. I cannnot get
    firewire capture to work. I have tried two different firewire PCI
    cards First was VIA 6306 chipset.
    That had NO setup to run (but DLLs and Inf drivers were supplied on a
    disk), you had to do a tricky manual install, putting inf files in
    certain folders, etc. to get around bugs. No joy on that. The Ulead
    program crashes when it tries to start. With the other two capture
    programs....Vegas Video and Video Capturix, only the devices Cirrus
    logic USB DVR2 and MS WDM are OHCI firewire device. So of
    course I have a blank screen/ monitor in both programs. Device
    manager shows the OHCI 1394 host controller, and no problem with it.

    I know I have a good connection to the firewire port, as when I plug
    it in with camcorder on, I get the little DV symbol
    only shows up when there is a connection to the host PC.

    I bought a second firewire card from COmpUSA, figuring I just had a
    junky buggy card....well this firewire card also has USB ports...and
    although it has a setup installer, the setup does not install any
    firewire driver! THe opening screen says what components it installs,
    and it shows only USB2 drivers! So the PC still has the manually
    installed Via chipset drivers from the first manual install. I think
    the COmpUSA may not be exactly the same chipset as the first card was.
    So I have thrown about $60 downs the drain and still can't capture my
    DV movies to the PC!

    I THINK that when the firewire port is working, and I plug in a
    firewire device, turn it on, the taskbar is supposed to pop up and say
    new device---DV camcorder---has been found. But it has been so long
    since i had firewire capture working on a PC that I am not sure. Is
    that right?

    Does anyone know of a firewire card that works well?
    geronimo, Jul 15, 2007
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  2. geronimo

    Mike Kujbida Guest

    All firewire cards I've ever installed have just worked. No need for
    any driver installation.
    The usual recommendation is to make sure the firewire card has a Texas
    Instruments chipset as it's the most reliable.
    What's your motherboard make & model?
    What's the firewire card make & model?
    Have you tried a different firewire cable?
    Have you tried the camera on a different (known to be working) computer?
    Yes, when you plug in a firewire device, you should get the pop-up
    window you describe.

    Mike Kujbida, Jul 15, 2007
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  3. geronimo

    geronimo Guest

    Have neither another camcorder or PC to try. I found through Google
    that there is some problem with VIA firewire chipset VT6306 and
    Windows XP SP2. SP2 renders it inop. SO I am going to return the
    CompUSa card, then look for a TI chipset firewire card I guess. But I
    heard that Via VT6306 is the best!

    WHen I installed the second card (as with the first) WIndows did not
    even pop up with "new hardware found" notice! However, its not a dead
    card, as the USB ports at least work. But then there is one chipset
    for USB2, and another for the firewire port.

    IF Win XP has a firewire driver of its own that usually works with
    various chipsets, then that would explain why there was no firewire
    driver on the installation disk, and why I can't find a VT6306 driver
    at VIA website or anywhere. But it seems like VIA should have come
    out with a patched driver for XP SP2! I emailed them a little
    nasty-gram about this.
    geronimo, Jul 15, 2007
  4. geronimo

    gypsy3001 Guest

    I suggest deleting the driver from Windows Device Manager (while the
    card is plugged in). Reboot Windows. It should find a new hardware. It
    should install the Windows version of the Firewire driver itself. If
    it can find the driver, pick you have the disk, and point the hardware
    install wizard to the INF. Your card should work at this point.

    After plugging your camcorder into the Firewire port, turn it on. See
    if a DV device shows up in the "Imaging Devices" section of the Device
    Manager. Nothing will work until you see the device show up there.

    gypsy3001, Jul 25, 2007
  5. geronimo

    allr1 Guest

    Not to insult your intelligence but,
    did you turn on the camcorder?

    It needs to be on before the PC
    will recognize it. (after you hook
    up the firewire to it)
    allr1, Jul 26, 2007
  6. From the OP's OP:

    "I plug in a firewire device, turn it on, the taskbar is supposed to
    pop up and say new device---DV camcorder---has been found"
    Gene E. Bloch, Jul 27, 2007
  7. geronimo

    Sam Hein Guest

    Have you tried easily wiggling the connection to your camera? Mine does
    not fit tight and it doesn't always connect. I've had times where I was
    capturing only to brush against the videocamera and it loses the connection
    only to reconnect when I move the cord where it is attached to the camera.
    Also do you have other firewire devices hooked? This shouldn't matter
    but sometimes it does. My firewire connected HD sometimes decides to
    disappear when capturing. A reboot usually fixes this.

    Sam Hein, Jul 27, 2007
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