change black+white to color

Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by JRYezierski, Mar 22, 2005.

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    JRYezierski Guest

    Is there a way of determining what the color of something is from an old
    black+white photo?
    I have an old b+w of my grandparents house and I would like to know what the
    original color was. They are deceased and no family member knows what the
    color was.

    I have photoimpact software with microtek scanmaker6000.
    JRYezierski, Mar 22, 2005
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    bob Guest

    No. But old B&W film was insensitive to red, so if the house is light
    colored you can eliminate red as a possibility.

    bob, Mar 22, 2005
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    Owamanga Guest

    Check the EXIF data on the old photo. If it was tagged correctly it
    should have a description, something like:

    "Grampa Mojo's 'canary yellow with green twiddley bits' house."
    Owamanga, Mar 22, 2005
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    Cynicor Guest

    It's a trick. Everything actually was in black and white until about 1952,
    when it all turned to color.
    Cynicor, Mar 22, 2005
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    Matt Ion Guest

    Hey, you must be one of the two dozen people who saw "Pleasantville"!
    Matt Ion, Mar 22, 2005
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    Hannah Guest

    Have you considered asking a psychic?
    Is your question really serious, or are you just trolling?
    Hannah, Mar 22, 2005
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    Chris D Guest


    Runs screaming from building, holding head, trying to forget the
    agony that was "pleasantville" in the cinemas...

    -Chris D
    Chris D, Mar 22, 2005
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    Matt Ion Guest

    Hey, it was a good way to tell if someone was a virgin or not: once they
    get laid, they appear in color! (Which doesn't explain the parents, but...)
    Matt Ion, Mar 23, 2005
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    Owamanga Guest

    You played that game, others played I-spy. I swear there were people
    in the back row trying to roast a chicken over candlelight, and one
    guy had constructed a scale model of Tokyo City entirely out of
    pop-corn and gum. A small group of children next to me had started a
    new religion, feverishly praying for the holy rolling credits, and my
    buddy was seriously considering settling down and starting a family
    with one of the cleaning staff.

    It was definitely the most tedious film I've seen in the last 10
    years. And one of only 2 lifetime 'walk-outs'. It was the worst 3
    weeks I've ever spent in a cinema.
    Owamanga, Mar 23, 2005
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    JRYezierski Guest

    Is there really any need to launch the insults?
    I thought this group would know if it was possible to change a photo from
    b+w to color.They have colorized old movies so I thought someone here would
    know how to change an old photo.

    I do thank the suggestion of getting a old paint chip and looking in the
    layers. This Old House site wasn't very easy to move around in for what I
    was looking for but thanks anyways.
    Having a color blind person look at it is an idea that may work.

    Asking neighbors wouldn't work as they are either dead or were not even born
    when this photo was taken,early 1900's.
    JRYezierski, Mar 23, 2005
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    bob Guest

    We do know, and as I said, you can't tell the actual colors.

    When they colorize movies they just look at the pictures and pick
    whatever they think would look good. They click on one guy's suit and
    make it blue; they click on another guy's and make it red. Unless a
    color is referenced in the movie ("hey Mack, nice blue car") then then
    it doesn't really matter.

    In the early 1900s it was probably white.

    bob, Mar 23, 2005
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    Big Bill Guest

    Usually, with colorized movies, one of two things happen...
    There could well be color stills taken that are used to determine what
    colors to use.
    They simply guess. Skin tones are usually a no-brainer, and clothes,
    if not described in the movie itself, don't matter. Inanimate objects
    take their clues from the movie, or are simply picked to look good.

    IMO, in your case, unless you can find an authority (liek a color pic
    or paint chip or someone who knows), you're pretty much out of luck.
    Big Bill, Mar 23, 2005
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    Ken Weitzel Guest


    Couple more ideas, if I may?

    Don't know where you are (or they were) - but check with
    your country's equivalent of our Canadian land titles office.
    They *will* have records going back that far, and might be
    quite descriptive.

    Check with the area's tax offices, see what they have.

    If you know their faith, check with the nearest place of
    worship. Ask them if they could look through records
    surrounding important dates. (marriages, births, christenings,
    deaths, etc) The records may have "social niceties" included.

    If you know where they banked, or if they were in a small
    town, then check with the bank. Likelihood is that they
    had a mortgage, and if so there may be a pretty good description
    of the property.

    If you know what your Grandfather did for a living, then
    check with the most likely employer. They may still have
    records, and if he was a long term employee perhaps some
    social things included. Thinking of big promotion, retirement,

    Check with one or two of the lawyers offices nearest the house.
    Possibility that one of them may have conveyed the property,
    and still have records.

    Google their address - see what shows up. And google close
    neighbors addresses. Perhaps something newsworthy happened
    sometime, and their may be stories available. Maybe detailed.

    Check with local newspaper(s). Search their records around
    important dates you know. This time also include engagements,
    job changes, illnesses - anything that might have created a

    And if all else fails; then colorize it yourself. To your
    tastes. You're his grandson, share the same dna, and
    undoubtedly think alike. So whatever you choose will be
    fine, and you can continue to build your memories on them :)

    If I think of more I'll let you know.

    Good luck, and take care.

    Ken Weitzel, Mar 23, 2005
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    Larry Guest

    I remember seeing something on the History Channel last year or the year
    before, and they mentioned the range of colors available to paint your home
    ro business from colonial times until the 20th century. Amazingly there were
    a lot of reds, browns, blues and yellows, but MOST of them were quite dark as
    compared to what we see today, and they faded and changed very rapidly.
    Whitewash and Calcimine paint (paint made from milk by-products) were the
    most popular way to treat a house from the mid 1800s till the mid 20th

    If the house appears light in color in the photo it is probably white or
    yellow, and yellow is not likely, it wasnt considered proper for a home in
    those days.

    Grey was popular, but only the Natural grey of weathered cedar shakes.

    Look closely at the photo, if there are Cedar Shakes on it it is PROBABLY a
    natural grey.

    In the early part of the 20th century cedar shakes were made from RED Cedar
    and were not painted.

    White Cedar shake only became popular much later when paint was available to
    cover them up, as they dont weather well like Red Cedar does, and will
    deteriorate and fall off without a good coat of high quality paint or stain.

    I hope some of this helps, it all comes from an old mans memories, and a
    remembered program on the History Channel.
    Larry, Mar 23, 2005
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    Bubbabob Guest

    The very first Turner colorized abortion was an old Laurel & Hardy film in
    which the dunces at TCM decided to make Stan Laurel's hair brown when any
    old film buff would know that his hair was flaming red.
    Bubbabob, Mar 24, 2005
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