Chapter / Scene structure

Discussion in 'Amateur Video Production' started by Snoopy, Jun 21, 2004.

  1. Snoopy

    Snoopy Guest

    I am working on making some of my own videos/mini movies. Mostly
    family-personal stuff. I am looking to develop a good method of working that
    would adapt itself to possibly longer work. I am referring to breakdown of
    chapter and scene development and video files and their respective sizes.
    Currently I have done individual videos - with almost no menu work.

    OK I'll get to my question:

    Is it good to make my entire video one project, one video, add in all
    chapter markers & render entire 2 hour movie? or work with my videos in
    scene's (render separately as they are completed) and insert the scene's
    into a larger video & chapter that (kind of projects with in a project
    thing)? or
    is there some other preferred method?

    I don't know if there is any benefit to rendering smaller chunks and
    assembling them. But at least there is quicker feedback to small changes.
    i.e. I can change a small scene - render- view results in less time if scene
    is only 2-3 minutes long. But if the entire two hour thing was one project -
    I would have to render just a window of where my change would be. Same
    result I suppose - I was just wondering advantages of one method over the
    other.

    Something akin to programming technique's & standards. The sooner good
    habits are formed - the less time its going to take me to 'unlearn' bad
    habits. If my question makes sense?

    If this makes no sense please let me know I'll try to re-word it.

    Thanks for everyone's input.


    Jeff
     
    Snoopy, Jun 21, 2004
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  2. If you went to MGM one day, then Epcot another, and Disneyworld another,
    then those would be separate movies. They may even have chapters within
    them, but separate them from each other as separate subjects. If you are
    making a documentary on Florida wildlife, that would be one movie, with
    chapters within.

    Just depends on the subject matter and digestible size of the movie.

    Gary Eickmeier
     
    Gary Eickmeier, Jun 22, 2004
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  3. Snoopy

    Brian Guest

    It might help others if they knew what program you are using.
    If you are rending the whole project then you need a lot of hard disk
    space.

    Regards Brian
     
    Brian, Jun 22, 2004
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  4. Snoopy

    Snoopy Guest

    OK, I had a feeling I was being too vague.

    The program(s) I use include Premiere 6, a little Vegas, and even
    VideoFactory for some stuff. But, I'm not so concerned about the program
    used, as I am about workflow procedures. I'll explain:

    I just got my upgrade to Premiere Pro, and am watching all the videos they
    included with the prog, and noticed that the way they work a project is
    nested. When the host opened his finished video, it was actually comprised
    of a number of clips. Each clip was itself a project, that was opened to
    reveal its source clips. And, I believe, each of those were projects that
    could be opened up again. (3 levels deep). Now I never witnessed a "OK lets
    render the whole project now" comment so I may still be missing something.
    But I was thinking about the workflow. Each clip could be worked on, even by
    different people (I'm thinking of dragging my brother-in-law in on some
    work) independantly. Then just plugged into the final timeline.

    When I work now, I keep all my intended clips on the master timeline. I only
    have one project open and it has everything, trims, transitions, fades -
    whatever. And the whole thing is saved only as one file.

    Example: My daughters recital: 1+ hours of childrens songs, 2 cameras. I
    inserted opening titles, the two videos, ending credits. clip - snip -
    paste - drag. I have a finished 1 hour, 2 camera, video of the event.
    Would it have made any sense to capture the individual songs separatly, edit
    the individual songs as individual projects, and then add all the finished
    songs to yet another project that has the titles & credits? I suppose that
    would allow me to change the order of thte songs, by just moving segments
    and not worrying about all the little clips/blends etc.

    So that is why I was wondering what other people are doing. Workflow and
    project management methods. Or does everyone just sit down at their stations
    and have these wonderful project just come streaming out of their
    heads....... (It sure does not stream out of mine ;-) Thats why I'm trying
    to follow a method that would allow me to lay things out.

    Thanks again for reading my babble - and any ideas you might have.
    Jeff
     
    Snoopy, Jun 22, 2004
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  5. This is an entirely different question from your original. You were
    talking about menus and chapters, and so I assumed you wanted to know
    how to break up your subjects for use as titles in DVDs. If you wanted
    to know how to work a single project in Premiere, then why didn't you
    say so?

    Gary Eickmeier
     
    Gary Eickmeier, Jun 26, 2004
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