Choose a standard zoom lens for Maxxum

Discussion in '35mm Cameras' started by James Cloud, Jun 7, 2004.

  1. James Cloud

    James Cloud Guest

    I am a beginner photographer looking to buy a standard slow zoom lens
    for my Minolta Maxxum 70 to use when travel. I currently have a 50mm
    f/1.7, a Sigma 28-80mm and a 100-300mm. I don't like the Sigma 28-80
    for its lack of sharpness and distortion at wide angle and am looking
    to buy a used Minolta lens to replace it.

    The lenses I am considering are:
    Minolta 28-135mm f/4-4.5 and
    Minolta 28-85mm f/3.5-4.5

    The 28-85 seems like a decent lens for its price, I liked the fact
    it's light-weight, has a 55mm filter size and a lens hood. But I also
    think the extra zoom range of 28-135mm is a nice to have for
    all-purpose photography.

    Additionally, I am concerned about the distortion at wide-angle. I
    wonder if either of these two Minolta lenses performs okay at 28mm.

    Your advise is appreciated.

    James
     
    James Cloud, Jun 7, 2004
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    Alan Browne Guest


    Consider also the 24-105 f/3.5-4.5 (D) and attempt to dump the
    Sigma 28-80. However, finding a 24-105 used may not be easy
    and new they are a bit pricey (~$310 - $340).

    Distortion wide (and usually long) is pretty much innevitable in
    a wide zoom. Compromise goes up as zoom ratio goes up and price
    goes down.

    Cheers,
    Alan
     
    Alan Browne, Jun 7, 2004
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  3. Forget it. While it is optically pretty good, it is very prone to flare,
    very heavy, and has poor close focus ability. Plus it is fragile.
    Much much better. Sharp, reasonable size. Good optically and mechanically.
    They are both OK at 28mm.

    Also consider the 24-105 and 28-105. Both are very good lenses. The 24-105
    nmay be somewhat better, but not a lot. Avoid the 24-85, if you should
    happen onto one. The distortion at the wide end - indeed, all through the
    range - is pretty ugly.

    Mike
     
    Mike Lipphardt, Jun 7, 2004
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    Lewis Lang Guest

    If you want a zoom with superb optical quality, reasonable price, very little
    if any distortion and that focuses as close if not closer than most ffl lenses
    and are willing to give up the telephoto end (since you already have a tele
    zoom, although some people need tele on their wide angle zooms so that they
    have to switch less, I don't because I am mainly a wide angle man, but I am not
    you and don't have your particular needs which may or may not match my own)
    consider the 24-50 f/4 Maxxum zoom. It is also quite small/compact too.
     
    Lewis Lang, Jun 7, 2004
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  5. James Cloud

    James Cloud Guest

    Thanks for the advises.

    28-135mm is no longer a candidate. I agree it's a bit too big and
    fragile.

    24-50mm is nice, but it's a tougher find than the other two candidates
    on the used market. Also for traveling, sometimes I need to use the
    zoom feature to shoot the top of a church, for example. I try to keep
    lens change to a minimum when I am on the road, especially in
    "unfriendly" places.

    28-105mm is also being considered along with 28-85mm. I heard the
    latter is bit sharper, whereas the 105 performs better at the long
    end. Only hearsay. No idea if it's true or not. I tend to view them
    as equivalent with the 105 being the more expensive sibling for its
    longer range. Your thoughts?

    James
     
    James Cloud, Jun 8, 2004
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    Alan Browne Guest

    James Cloud wrote:

    If the 28-85 really is sharper then that beats minor differences
    in distortion as a winning argument.

    OTOH, for travel, the slight extra reach of the 105 may be a benefit.

    The 28-105 (D) also integrates properly with (D) flashes via (D)
    cognizant bodies (Like your Maxxum 70), so if flash photography
    is part of your need, that may be a benefit as well.

    (As far as I know there are no 28-85 "D" lenses).

    Cheers,
    Alan
     
    Alan Browne, Jun 8, 2004
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    Bill Tuthill Guest

    Given that the Minolta DSLR (digital SLR) announced for this fall
    is a 1.5x cropping factor, making the 28-105 a 42-157 lens, I think
    you might want to favor 24-NN lenses into your decision.

    Even if you don't immediately buy a DSLR, you may eventually. When
    the Minolta DSLR comes on market, there will probably be specialized
    partial-image-circle lenses, but they might really stink.
     
    Bill Tuthill, Jun 9, 2004
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    Lewis Lang Guest

    Subject: Re: Choose a standard zoom lens for Maxxum
    Years ago I saw results from either the 28-85 or the 28-105 Maxxum lens, I'm
    sorry I can't remebe which so that doesn't help you, but it would seem to me
    that either would do you fine. I really do think that you should really get
    your hands on a friends or a store's zoom that begins at 24mm just to see if
    these 28mm zooms aren't too tight for you in cramped spaces and/or when you
    can't back up.

    By the way, the plural of "advice", I believe, is still advice. "Advices", when
    you come to think of it/say it still sounds quite odd. Same thing with "fish",
    it can also be both singular and plural, weird, huh, but that's the English
    language for you ;-). I wouldn't even venture a guess if the word "Maxxum" was
    singular or plural but or both but I'm leaning towards the first ;-).
     
    Lewis Lang, Jun 10, 2004
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  9. James Cloud

    Lewis Lang Guest

    Subject: Re: Choose a standard zoom lens for Maxxum
    Don't you mean 24-105D, Alan, or has "the mind of Konica" ;-) also brought out
    a 28-105D too?
     
    Lewis Lang, Jun 10, 2004
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  10. James Cloud

    Alan Browne Guest

    Yes Lewis, I meant the 24-105D... thanks for correcting...

    Cheers,
    Alan
     
    Alan Browne, Jun 10, 2004
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  11. James Cloud

    Lewis Lang Guest

    Subject: Re: Choose a standard zoom lens for Maxxum
    :)
     
    Lewis Lang, Jun 11, 2004
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  12. James Cloud

    James Cloud Guest

    Lewis, thanks for the advis (plural) ;)

    I tried the 24-105 and liked it. So because of this group of warm and
    helpful people I am no out of $300 more than my initial budget ;)

    Who says money cannot buy happiness?

    James
     
    James Cloud, Jun 11, 2004
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    Tom Guest

    In addition to the relatively expensive 24-105D, Minolta has released
    a newer 28-105D consumer (inexpensive) lens that is the kit lens for
    the 70. The old 28-105 (non D) was a reasonably good lens, but I
    don't know how the new D version compares. Since you want to replace
    a less-than-sharp kit lens, this one might not be what you want.

    There are some additional advantages of using "D" lenses on the Maxxum
    70 beyond ADI flash control. The 70 has DMF and the push button AF/MF
    controls like the Maxxum 7. However, according to the manual, unlike
    the Maxxum 7, a "D" lens is required to use these feaures on the 70.

    Tom
     
    Tom, Jun 11, 2004
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    Lewis Lang Guest

    Subject: Re: Choose a standard zoom lens for Maxxum
    Congratulation(s)! Don't you mean "happinesses"? ;-) ;-)
     
    Lewis Lang, Jun 12, 2004
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  15. James Cloud

    Lewis Lang Guest

    Subject: Re: Choose a standard zoom lens for Maxxum
    Thanks Tom. Are you absolutely sure the new D kit lens isn't a 28-100D not a
    28-105D lens?
     
    Lewis Lang, Jun 12, 2004
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    Tom Guest

    Lewis, You are correct, it is a 28-100mm D, not 105.

    Tom
     
    Tom, Jun 12, 2004
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    Lewis Lang Guest

    Subject: Re: Choose a standard zoom lens for Maxxum
    Thanks, Tom :).
     
    Lewis Lang, Jun 14, 2004
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    Bill Tuthill Guest

    The new Minolta 28-100 D (not 105, unless you mean a different lens)
    was tested a few months ago in Popular Photography and Imagination,
    AKA Bait & Switch Monthly. I summarized test scores in a post dated
    2004-05-27 18:38:14 PST. Looks bad, unlike the previous 28-80 D,
    which was quite good considering its price.
     
    Bill Tuthill, Jun 14, 2004
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