comments on Agfa MCC FB papers (vs. Ilford)?

Discussion in 'Darkroom Developing and Printing' started by Mike Marty, Sep 28, 2003.

  1. Mike Marty

    Mike Marty Guest

    So far, I've done all my printing on Ilford MGIV RC paper (satin and
    pearl finishes). I'd like to try FB paper.

    How is Agfa MC Classic paper compared to Iford? Reason I'm eying this
    stuff is that its cheaper and offered in semi-matte for 5x7" at B&H.
    For this size, Ilford only seems to have matte and glossy listed at B&H
    for VC FB paper. I disliked RC glossy paper and fear that matte FB
    paper will be too dull for my tastes.

    Or I'm considering Ilford's MG Warm semi-matte stuff priced 50% higher.

    I'd like to try toning too. Not knowing what to get, I've added Kodak
    Rapid Selenium Toner to my B&H cart. Any known issues?

    Mike Marty, Sep 28, 2003
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  2. Mike,

    Agfa MCC in either glossy or matte is a wonderful paper. Using my own
    subjective tests and judgement is has the same high quality as both
    Illford or Kodak. It even holds its own against some of the premium
    priced papers such as Bergger. I am talking the print quality. Some
    papers, especially Bergger had a heavier paper base.

    If you did not like glossy in RC you will like it in fiber.
    Non-ferrotyped glossy fiber is a beautiful finish. One of Agfa MCC
    oddities is the difference between the glossy and matte finish. The
    glossy paper is on a white base, but the matte finish is on a cream
    base. People mourning the discontinuance of Ektalure should love MCC in
    matte and it is a multi-contrast paper too. I have toned MCC in selenium
    and sepia. There isn't a lot of color change with the selenium, but you
    do get the archival result. It tones well with sepia. I have not tried
    it with any other toner.

    I used to love Mitsubishi paper until I discovered it doesn't do well in
    sunlight. I tested most fiber papers before settling on MCC. Everything
    else being equal it does have the best price.

    Frank Rome, NY
    Frank Calidonna, Sep 28, 2003
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  3. Mike Marty

    Mike Marty Guest


    Thanks for the feedback. Have you tried the semi-matte stuff? What
    sepia toner do you use?

    Mike Marty, Sep 28, 2003
  4. Mike,

    I use the semi-matte paper for portraits. The sepia toner I use is Kodak. I
    would advise buying some - since you want to print 5x7 this isn't an expensive
    investment - and give it a try. I think the paper is excellent, but that is
    only my judgement. Try some smaller packages of other papers to compare. See
    if you like it. That is the best test. Take care.

    Frank Rome, NY
    Frank Calidonna, Sep 28, 2003
  5. Mike Marty

    lloyd Guest

    On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 16:59:46 GMT, Frank Calidonna


    sep2903 from Lloyd Erlick,

    The matte version of Agfa MCC FB paper is produced on the same paper
    base as formerly used for Portriga graded paper (now out of

    The glossy surface is coated onto the same paper as used for Record
    Rapid graded paper (which was labeled Insignia for some time in North

    I learned this from an Agfa Canada rep. I've never had corroboration
    from Agfa, though.

    lloyd, Sep 30, 2003
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