Concise Advice from the Beeb

Discussion in 'Photography' started by Dave, Jan 10, 2005.

  1. Dave

    me Guest

    Shame on me, what will I do?
    Well you've certainly taught me a lesson in civility tonight. I hope I can
    live up to your fine example.
    me, Jan 14, 2005
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  2. Dave

    me Guest


    I lost track, who's winning this thing?
    Beleaguered but unbowed,
    me, Jan 14, 2005
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  3. Dave

    Mike Kohary Guest

    So, what about it?
    Mike Kohary, Jan 14, 2005
  4. Dave

    grol Guest

    There is none. "me" is just a sock.
    grol, Jan 14, 2005
  5. Dave

    BillB Guest

    Since you've flipped a bit and switched to learning mode, perhaps
    you'd like to try to improve your poor quoting technique before
    dullness sets in and you revert to previous form?
    BillB, Jan 14, 2005
  6. Dave

    me Guest

    And the baiting continues. We can waste more time on this tomorrow if you
    like, goodnight.
    Film best,
    me, Jan 14, 2005
  7. Dave

    me Guest

    Sour grapes, goodnight.
    Film best,
    me, Jan 14, 2005
  8. Dave

    Mike Kohary Guest

    So you're not going to show us any of your work, then.
    Mike Kohary, Jan 14, 2005
  9. Dave

    Carl Guest

    I suspect George W is more likely to get a third term ;)
    Carl, Jan 14, 2005
  10. Dave

    brian Guest

    Winning What?, I though this was a discussion group , not a games room.
    I have not shown any of my work on here either, but if I were asked to I
    might be persuaded, its more of a fear of theft that halts me, not that I
    think any of the guys in here are thieves, but if I put my work online,
    whets to stop someone right clicking and buggering off with it, and I know
    its not the done thing to pop an attachment onto a post.

    brian, Jan 14, 2005
  11. Dave

    brian Guest

    Baiting?, I don't see any baiting here, it was a simple request from the
    group to view some of your work, why not show them what's what and put a
    couple of pics up. You have to back up your claims and arguments by
    producing some work.

    brian, Jan 14, 2005
  12. Dave

    me Guest

    Yes baiting. Certain cretins in here attack me regurally because I say "Film
    best". They hope that asking me to post my work will prove something. If I
    felt the need to prove something I would but I don't so there's no need to
    address this.
    My posts do that quite nicely.
    Film best (the cretins have only two options, accept this or ignore it),

    PS: There's no reward for being their (the cretins) coconspirator, that is
    not if you don't plan to join them.
    me, Jan 14, 2005
  13. Dave

    me Guest

    Name calling? Nonsense. Loathsome is the scumbag who gives complements in an
    effort to look good to others and then stabs you in the back at the first
    opportunity: Film ____,
    me, Jan 14, 2005
  14. Dave

    brian Guest

    I am not "joining" anyone, but both "sides" here have points to make,
    Although I am an avid film fan, I do appreciate digital, especially
    nowadays, rather than in its beginning, digital is now a true form of
    photography, unfortunately, to reach the same standards as film, it does
    cost an arm and a leg to set up, or even convert to a digital package, or I
    would be using both medium. but that does not give anyone the right to
    belittle someone else's choice of medium. I have a computer and both Flatbed
    and film scanners, so I can enter the digital argument to some degree, as I
    have used Photoshop to not only capture and view my images but to manipulate
    them to some degree, although I prefer to use my chemical darkroom for final
    printing, I have printed from the computer with good results.
    Your posts, Unfortunately, do not back up your claims and arguments, they
    are simply rants against digital with no evidence in defence.
    If you stuck to your opinion that film is best and accepted that others do
    not agree then that would be fine, but you DO constantly butt in to other
    posts and belittle digital, with, as they say, nothing to back up your
    I agree that showing your work to anyone would Indeed be pointless and prove
    nothing, because there is nothing to prove, film and digital now work side
    by side and if one were to produce a digital print and a film print on the
    same medium, then I doubt if anyone could tell which was which.

    brian, Jan 14, 2005
  15. Dave

    M.Stepelton Guest

    I to am a "old Hippy" giving my work away on-line :cool: After all, there is
    Photography, then there are the "Money Shots". A good 85% of what I shoot is
    far from being "Money Shots". That's why I post them on the web for other
    folks to enjoy, download, order prints or whatever FREE. I just can't have
    that attitude that I HAVE to make money on EVERY shot. IMHO :cool:
    M.Stepelton, Jan 14, 2005
  16. On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:27:51 -0800, "Mike Kohary"

    I do

    but the best times come in wandering around a place

    jan1405 from Lloyd Erlick,

    The second part of your remarks aptly describes my
    feelings about portrait photography. I find it
    endlessly fascinating and deeply challenging. I find
    the human mind and its reflecting pool, the face, the
    most complex and fast-changing terrain in the world.

    One has to be careful about doing work one hates, or
    finds boring. You can injure yourself. My stomach knots
    if I'm asked to photograph objects for sale these days.
    The amounts of money offered for such work are rarely
    enough, and I can't even bring myself to accept if
    someone offers, which they do not, because of my bad
    attitude. See what I mean?

    Lloyd Erlick Portraits, Toronto.
    voice: 416-686-0326
    Lloyd Usenet-Erlick, Jan 14, 2005
  17. On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:13:17 -0600, "me"

    IMO too many

    jan1405 from Lloyd Erlick,

    Once again, my own experience is precisely this.

    In almost all cases, the chances are indeed vague, no
    matter how rosy they might appear before the fact.

    Lloyd Erlick Portraits, Toronto.
    voice: 416-686-0326
    Lloyd Usenet-Erlick, Jan 14, 2005
  18. Dave

    me Guest

    My dispute with these people is not new and I did not cast the first stone,
    they did, therefore I will not waste time on proving something. See, Camera
    for my Wife on 10/29/04 in this NG. This somewhat tongue in cheek post is
    what provoked them: it was in no
    way directed at them but they *chose* to take it personally. Note the names
    of those involved. Since then they have attempted to bait me and ridicule me
    at every opportunity. I have returned the sentiment. I don't see why I
    should have to justify my actions to anyone but there it is.
    me, Jan 14, 2005
  19. Dave

    me Guest

    Much appreciated Lloyd.
    Thank you,
    me, Jan 14, 2005
  20. Dave

    Owamanga Guest

    I remember that thread, and here's what I said in it:

    "Conundrum - he argues that film is better than digital, but of course
    he can't demonstrate a real-world example to thousands of netizans
    without digital representation of his images."

    Looks like my statement has held true for almost 3 months now.

    You can't win this one "me".
    Owamanga, Jan 14, 2005
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