Confusing camera product names and series

Discussion in 'UK Photography' started by aniramca, May 6, 2007.

  1. aniramca

    aniramca Guest

    I still have a hard time to figure out on how the major camera
    companies place their product in the market. Are their product names
    and series designed on purpose to confuse the consumers? Or are they
    as confused as we are (in trying to sell products which cover our vast
    budget range)? Reviewing a variety of products will become difficult
    for the consumers.
    Can anyone explain or may be can direct me to a website, which may
    provide information behind the naming of the products and series? Do
    lower numbers refer to older models, cheaper price, lower features or
    all of the above? Examples as follows

    Canon cameras:
    Powershot series : What are the difference between A,G,S,Pro,SD and TX
    series? I know that SD is the ultra compact, TX has camcorder vertical
    style, A series using regular AA batteries? How does G7 compare to S3
    IS and Pro series? Why SD1000 camera is cheaper than SD900?
    Digital series : Are EOS ( 5D,30D, etc) series are superior that
    Digital Rebel series (XT, Xti) ? Are EOS series designed for
    professionals?

    Nikon Cameras:
    Powershot series : What are the difference between series L, P, and
    S? Is the new Coolpix P5000 similar to Coolpix 5000 introduced much
    earlier? Is Coolpix S9 has better features, and more expensive that
    the Coopix S5? Is P5000 Nikon best offer to compete with high end
    powershot camera (rival to Canon G7)?
    Digital series: Is the D200 the new ultimate digital camera produced
    by Nikon? How does it compare to the older D1 or D1H introduced in
    the early 2000s?

    Panasonic/Lumix cameras:
    Powershot series : What are the difference between series FX, FZ, LX,
    LC, LZ and TZ?
    I found the Panasonic series are even worse than Canon in term of
    trying to compare with. LZ series is the bulky one. What series is the
    ultra compact one? Is it LC series?
    Is the FZ50 currently the top of the line of the powershot series?
    How is this compare to Lumix LX2, for example? Does Lumix produce
    product similar to Canon G7?
    Only one digital product, which is L1 - so, no comparison.

    Thanks for info.
     
    aniramca, May 6, 2007
    #1
    1. Advertisements

  2. aniramca

    Silicon Sam Guest

    On the Canon Digital, the shorter the number, the more Pro the
    camera...

    1D, 5D Professional

    10D, 20D, 30D Pro-Consumer

    300D, 350D, 400D Consumer

    The 300D, 350D, and 400D is the "other" name for the Digital Rebel,
    Rebel XT, and Rebel XTi

    Sam
     
    Silicon Sam, May 6, 2007
    #2
    1. Advertisements

  3. THe 5D . . . IS NOT A PRO CAMERA, Canon on considers the 1D series as
    pro. Only the 1D series will get Canon Pro Service, in other words if it
    breaks a 5D goes into the que and doesn't get any priority in servicing,
    which in Canada runs 4-6 weeks...
     
    Not Disclosed, May 6, 2007
    #3
  4. aniramca

    Matt Ion Guest

    Also, ALL of the above are EOS series. "EOS", IIRC, actually refers to
    the lensmount design used in all of their autofocus SLRs, film or digital.
     
    Matt Ion, May 6, 2007
    #4

  5. You are not going to find any theme for model naming which would be
    seriously useful for comparison shopping between models, as opposed to just
    looking at the feature set of each model. Whatever patterns exist are going
    to be subject to so many exceptions that your inquiry is probably useless.

    Having recently shopped two 7 meg point-and-shoot digitals with and for two
    pre-teens, I have experienced your confusion. I ened up sitting at a
    computer with each "end-user", fixing a price range, then briefly comparing
    the most important features of each model within the offerings of two
    makers. For what its worth, the type of battery options usable [AA],
    physical size, time from power-up to first exposure, and shutter lag
    reported by users proven to be the most important issues. I was surprised
    at the sophisiticated shopper's decision-making of a 10 and 13 year old; I
    was not so surpised that the cameras are used more as novel toys, exotic
    possessions, than as photographic appliances.
     
    Randy Stewart, May 6, 2007
    #5
  6. Did you even read the other replies? Although I'd agree that down and
    dirty comparison of features and price points is more important.
     
    John McWilliams, May 6, 2007
    #6
  7. Performance, Style, Life. This is pretty clear on the Nikon website. What
    is not clear is what is actually meant by the buzzwords Style and Life :-(

    --
    Alan

    ( If replying by mail, please note that all "sardines" are canned.
    However, unless this a very old message, a "tuna" will swim right
    through. )
     
    Alan Clifford, May 6, 2007
    #7
  8. aniramca

    Charles Guest

    As do we all. I have been teaching digital photography in my community and
    find it difficult to help others select a camera.

    This might be an excellent opportunity for someone. A web-based parametric
    search engine. One would enter price and key items from their desired
    feature set, and then be presented with models that comply with the search
    parameters. Such a site would be a major PITA to constantly debug and
    upgrade but with paying links to vendors, it could be profitable. No, I am
    not about to tackle it myself but would be interested in helping anyone who
    would.
     
    Charles, May 6, 2007
    #8
  9. aniramca

    Robert Coe Guest

    On 6 May 2007 06:49:29 -0700, wrote:
    : I still have a hard time to figure out on how the major camera
    : companies place their product in the market. Are their product names
    : and series designed on purpose to confuse the consumers? Or are they
    : as confused as we are (in trying to sell products which cover our vast
    : budget range)? Reviewing a variety of products will become difficult
    : for the consumers.
    : Can anyone explain or may be can direct me to a website, which may
    : provide information behind the naming of the products and series? Do
    : lower numbers refer to older models, cheaper price, lower features or
    : all of the above? Examples as follows
    :
    : Canon cameras:
    : Powershot series : What are the difference between A,G,S,Pro,SD and TX
    : series? I know that SD is the ultra compact, TX has camcorder vertical
    : style, A series using regular AA batteries? How does G7 compare to S3
    : IS and Pro series? Why SD1000 camera is cheaper than SD900?
    : Digital series : Are EOS ( 5D,30D, etc) series are superior that
    : Digital Rebel series (XT, Xti) ? Are EOS series designed for
    : professionals?
    :
    : Nikon Cameras:
    : Powershot series : What are the difference between series L, P, and
    : S? Is the new Coolpix P5000 similar to Coolpix 5000 introduced much
    : earlier? Is Coolpix S9 has better features, and more expensive that
    : the Coopix S5? Is P5000 Nikon best offer to compete with high end
    : powershot camera (rival to Canon G7)?

    Nikon has a "Powershot" series? Won't that get them sued for copyright
    infringement? I'm pretty sure Canon was there first.

    Bob
     
    Robert Coe, May 6, 2007
    #9
  10. aniramca

    Guest Guest

    Dont forget Fujifilm, and its weird reason? to call S700 a S5700 in
    different regions

    WHY?

    Kinga 2o2
     
    Guest, May 7, 2007
    #10
  11. aniramca

    ASAAR Guest

    In order to avoid calling it an S5300. The next camera in this
    line may be named S800 and S5800. I assume that you're familiar
    with the naming convention used for earlier cameras in this line and
    the greater confusion that those names may have caused.
     
    ASAAR, May 7, 2007
    #11
  12. Sorry, u missed my point.Being the SAME name for the same camera,
    regardless where its sold.

    Has Nth.America a problem is saying "S5700" so they made it shorter to
    "S700"?

    But then again, i remember my first SLR/35mm was a Minolta 700, called
    a "Dynax'? or similar in N/America

    Cheers

    Kinga 202
     
    Michael.Pasturi, May 7, 2007
    #12
  13. aniramca

    ASAAR Guest

    Sorry, but you didn't make an clear and obvious point. You did
    see that I said "I assume that you're familiar with the naming
    convention used for earlier cameras in this line . . .", where
    nothing like "S700" was used. Whether you do or don't know, the
    names used for the same Fuji cameras, depending on region, are
    S5100/S5500 and S5200/S5600. Notice that S500 and S600 weren't
    used. As to why, It's hard to say since many manufacturers do it,
    including Canon, Nikon and Sony, among others, and this name
    changing isn't used just for cameras. Sometimes it might be to use
    a word that may appeal more to people in one region than another,
    such as Canon's use of "Digital Rebel" for the USA. In the case of
    the Fuji, it's not that, since the difference between S5200 and
    S5600 would hardly matter much in terms of its appeal to buyers. In
    this case it might be for Nikon's reason, which is to make it easier
    to identify where the camera might have been "legitimately" sold. I
    don't know if Fuji restricts warranty coverage as unreasonably as
    Nikon does, in attempting to deny coverage to gray market cameras.

    Obviously not, as S5200 wouldn't be any harder to say than S5600.
    I did give a possible reason why S700 was used instead of S5300. Do
    try to pay more attention. Focus. Focus. :) Which leads us to
    another interesting point/question. While this isn't your first
    message to appear using the name "Michael.Pasturi", it's the first
    I've seen to have been signed "Kinga 202". Did you slip up, or were
    you unduly influenced by Fuji into using multiple confusing nyms. :)

    Maybe it's just that Minolta (and other manufacturers) leave
    product naming to local marketing "experts", and in the USA they
    tend to value (or overvalue) the influence of name associations with
    sales. "x" is often used for various reasons. "Dyna" might bring
    "Dynamic" to mind. You'll never see a serious camera named "Sleepy"
    or "Woofer 180". <g>


    Cheers

    Not Kinga 202
    Not Michael Pasturi
     
    ASAAR, May 7, 2007
    #13
    1. Advertisements

Ask a Question

Want to reply to this thread or ask your own question?

You'll need to choose a username for the site, which only take a couple of moments (here). After that, you can post your question and our members will help you out.