Consensus editor for ACVHD?

Discussion in 'Amateur Video Production' started by Richard Crowley, Apr 29, 2008.

  1. I got an email from my VP (too many levels up in the
    org chart to even see him from here :) asking for a
    recommendation for a amateur level (<$150) NLE
    application for his new ACVHD camcorder (Sony
    SR11).

    I'm following the discussion here (and on the HV20
    website) about HDV editing where I have the similar
    question for myself.

    Is there a consensus for a consumer ACVHD edit
    application that I can tell him?

    What would you say the consensus is here now for
    HDV editing?
     
    Richard Crowley, Apr 29, 2008
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  2. Richard Crowley

    Ken Maltby Guest

    I don't think one editing solution will ever settle out.

    Luck; (and you will really need it)
    Ken

    P.S. I've always found that making such recommendations,
    for a higher up, never ends well.
     
    Ken Maltby, Apr 30, 2008
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  3. That last could be the best bit of advice, but, the OP
    could "take the bull by the horns" and recommend to
    the VP that he return the inferior ACVHD camcorder
    (inferior picture, hard to archive the material, and quite
    hard to edit), and get the Canon HV30, which about
    everyone agrees is quite excellent, and which uses the
    superior tape-based HDV recording and archiving
    system. For editing that, I compare here three editing
    programs - www.donferrario.com/ruether/hdv-editing.htm,
    two cheap ones, and one "good" one (but that one is
    probably too expensive and complex). I suppose that
    if you do proceed (and the VP does proceed with
    ACVHD...), you could point out that the VP is likely
    to need some serious computer hardware to make it
    practical. Or, you could claim total lack of knowledge
    on this subject, and "lie low" for a while...8^)
    Um, I also wish you luck! ;-)
    --David Ruether
     
    David Ruether, Apr 30, 2008
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  4. "Richard Crowley" wrote ...
    Here is what I told him...

    Since AVCHD is so new, there aren't as many choices for
    editing right now as there will be later in the life-cycle.

    The major contenders appear to be...

    Corel Ulead VideoStudio 11.5 Plus ($60 at Amazon)
    http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0013OAHTG/interactiveda8377-20

    Vegas Movie Studio 8 Platinum Edition ($90 at Amazon)
    http://www.amazon.com/Vegas-Movie-S..._1_1?ie=UTF8&s=software&qid=1209591948&sr=1-1

    There are other minor players and some ingenious (but fiddly)
    kludges and workarounds, but I would recommend one of those
    two if you don't want to spend any more time on it than is
    necessary.

    You may have additional requirements (like end-to-end work-
    flow through writing distribution Blu-Ray discs, etc.)
    which might swing the choice to one or the other.(?)
     
    Richard Crowley, Apr 30, 2008
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  5. Richard Crowley

    videoguys Guest

    For AVCHD our top recommendation is Vegas. Either platium on the
    consumer side or Vegas Pro 8 on the more professional level. Make sure
    you have a powerful machine, at least dual core w/ 2 GB+ of RAM. We
    recommend XP over Vista for now.

    At NAB2008 Sony announced DVD Architect 5 with Blu-Ray support. Anyone
    buying Vegas Pro 8 now will get this upgrade free as a download from
    Sony when it ships.

    We have Vegas Pro 8 on sale for $399.95. We include a bunch of
    training from VASST to get you started. We also have a Blu-Ray bundle
    that includes the Pioneer BDR-202 Blu-Ray burner. Check it out
    http://www.videoguys.com/vegaspro8.html

    Gary
     
    videoguys, Apr 30, 2008
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  6. Ah, the, "Well, it depends..." answer...;-) Smart! ;-)
    Maybe make sure this one doesn't recompress everything
    at output (Platinum does, with HDV - but VS11+ and
    VP-8 don't...).
    Not gonna warn him 'bout the S - L - O - W processing
    time for ACVHD timelines unless the computer is SUPER-
    WHIZZ-BANG-FAST, huh? ;-)
    That's it - keep things indefinite...! ;-)
    Good luck! ;-)
    --DR
     
    David Ruether, Apr 30, 2008
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  7. Richard Crowley

    Ken Maltby Guest

    Magix "Movie Edit Pro 14 Plus" has a lot going for it, and
    should be on your list. It has a number of new features
    especially for AVCHD and includes a "full HD workflow",
    import. edit, and burn HD video. (Of course you need a
    really high power system, as several have mentioned.)
    [ Unless the "Videoguys" can come up with a really good
    deal on an ADS Tech "Pyro Kompressor HD" :
    http://www.adstech.com/pyroav_com/default.asp ]

    I have used MEP 14+ with SD AVC .mp4, but I have only
    a few downloaded AVCHD clips that I've tried with it, they
    seemed to be no problem for the program. I haven't done a
    complete AVCHD project though, so there could be issues
    that I just haven't encountered.

    Luck;
    Ken
     
    Ken Maltby, May 1, 2008
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  8. "David Ruether" wrote...
    Few people in the know part of the universe are in a better
    position to actually *DO* something about making CPUs
    faster than he is. :))
     
    Richard Crowley, May 2, 2008
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  9. Ah, then there is hope for his actually (without watching
    the glaciers melt before the video is completed) successfully
    outputting the (inferior-quality) ACVHD video...;-)
    --DR
     
    David Ruether, May 2, 2008
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