Cool website for a post video production place in pittsburgh pa

Discussion in 'Professional Video Production' started by Flaphead, Dec 6, 2004.

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    Flaphead Guest

    This website is for a post production video botique located in
    pittsburgh PA. It featues a nice custom xml driven FLV player to
    showcase it's work. Also has a flv tour of the facility made in 3d.
    http://www.ncoast.net

    let me know what you think
     
    Flaphead, Dec 6, 2004
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    nappy-iou Guest

    I hate flash. It is so laborious to sit through all the artsy transitions
    and stuff.
    That said.
    The site works well. You've done a lot of good work. The panoramas are a
    little slow. I'd like to see more work area and less walls.

    I see your audio room is live-end + live-end. Not sure how well that works
    but it looks like you have a lot of happy clients!

    Is Lomakin Music still down there? I used to hang there when I was a kid.
    Bought my first set of humbuckers there in .. god.. 68?

    Anyway.. it is a clean presentation, but I simply tire of the over artsy
    websites like this. They're slow and always a trick to navigate ..

    I would give it an 80. Even with my cranky response I thought it was done
    exceptionally well. Looks like a cozy place to get crazy.
     
    nappy-iou, Dec 6, 2004
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    kay & wand Guest

    too much flash!!! no time to wait....

    leslie
     
    kay & wand, Dec 6, 2004
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  4. "high speed internet connection required"

    I guess with a place that fancy, potential customers who
    can't afford broadband can't afford their services either?

    Interesting business decision. Has the percentage of
    broadband users in the US even reached 50% yet?
     
    Richard Crowley, Dec 7, 2004
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    Steve King Guest

    The penetration of broadband among the populace is not important. What is
    important, to me and evidently to the producer in Pittsburg, is the fact
    that almost all businesses and non-profits of any size do have broadband.
    For instance, every one of my clients, 100%, has broadband, and that is
    quite a range of entities, from local construction companies to national
    manufacturers to state-level and national non-profit associations.

    I'm building a new site and am struggling with these issues. I had been
    reluctant to include 'broadband required' features, primarily because of the
    frequent complaints I have read here. However, after polling my present
    clients, I am no longer as shy about Flash, for example. It seems to be on
    all of my client base hardware. More than QuickTime. More than RealVideo.

    If I were doing business with a different group of clients, or if I were
    located outside of a metropolitan market, I might think differently.

    However, I'm still interested to hear arguments showing I am wrong.

    Steve King
     
    Steve King, Dec 7, 2004
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    Larry J. Guest

    I don't know how anyone in the video production business can survive
    without broadband.
     
    Larry J., Dec 7, 2004
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    Steve King Guest

    I don't know how anyone who contracts for (is a customer for) graphic,
    video, or sound services can survive without broadband.

    Steve King
     
    Steve King, Dec 7, 2004
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    nappy-iou Guest


    I'm on a DSL connection .. fast as any other. Flash is still slow.
    fancy?

    Most post facilities with flash sites like that require high speed DSL
     
    nappy-iou, Dec 7, 2004
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    nappy-iou Guest

    you can't . it is a necessity because of the extent of media on the site.
    And more if you are playing large flash files
     
    nappy-iou, Dec 7, 2004
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    kay & wand Guest

    simple - give viewers an option straight up, flash / non-flash.

    leslie
     
    kay & wand, Dec 7, 2004
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    kay & wand Guest

    i know a great number of people in tv and video production who don't
    necessarily use their office (read broadband) connection for 'browsing'
    around.

    if the creator of the site had any foresight, it would have been simple to
    give a flash / non flash option to start with.

    leslie
     
    kay & wand, Dec 7, 2004
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    nappy-iou Guest

    yo Richard.. I responded to your post too quickly..

    I think it is ok to require broadband access for sites like this. Sure an
    HTML version would be nice for slower connections but at some point it
    becomes impossible to showcase the product correctly on a slow connection.
    And if you are in the business of creating media people expect to see that
    you have done it on your website also.
     
    nappy-iou, Dec 8, 2004
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    Larry J. Guest

    Waving the right to remain silent, "kay & wand"
    Who's talking about "browing around"..?
     
    Larry J., Dec 8, 2004
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    Steve King Guest

    That's an idea. I'll ask my web site guy what that would involve.

    I suspect that the biggest bang for the buck with this new site will be to
    be able to say to a present client or a prospective client with whom I have
    already established some contact, "Got to www.xxx.xxx and take a look at
    such and such sample there." Or got to www.xxx.xxx to see a range of what
    we do." In other words as a follow-up to more conventional marketing and
    relationship efforts.

    Has anyone here, or anyone you know of for sure, ever bagged new business
    that started with someone happening onto a web site, with a Google search,
    for instance? For product oriented stuff for sure. Maybe some services.
    But, I don't know anyone in video who has.

    Note that I don't really know anything for sure... particularly in this area
    of discussion.

    Steve King
     
    Steve King, Dec 8, 2004
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  15. Good on you. But that means you don't need anymore new clients,
    because their opinion doesn't count, right? If you want to effectively
    advertise your services, you have to do this with the smallest common
    denominator in mind.

    cheers

    -martin-
     
    Martin Heffels, Dec 8, 2004
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    Steve King Guest

    We all need new clients from time to time ;-) However, you are right that
    the opinion of many, many people does not count. I assume that you mean by
    'the smallest common denominator' that I should design my appeal to reach
    the greatest number of people. What you say may be correct for advertising,
    say, a low priced product or service appropriate for a mass prospect base,
    the general public, for instance. But, for video production companies, I
    think your logic is wrong. If I want to effectively advertise my services
    to a rather narrow audience, say CEO's and marketing and training executives
    who regularly contract for projects with price-tags of $25,000 or $50,000 or
    $100,000 and up, I might be advised to take a different approach, don't you
    think?

    Steve King
     
    Steve King, Dec 8, 2004
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  17. I don't think it's wrong. What about the local grocer who is looking
    for a production company to shot their TVC? DO you expect them to have
    broadband? I wouldn't, and if they would tune-out because they were
    tired of waiting for my flashy intro to be pumped over their lousy 56k
    dial-up, they clikc the next link instead. That's what I always do, if
    I'm looking to buy products for our school. The more annoying the
    website, the less tempted I get to look further into what they have to
    offer, ergo, potentialy client lost. I don't know if you notice, but
    the big-uns haven't got flash intro's anymore, because of that reason.
    I think Leslie's suggestion to add a button to skip the Flash-trash is
    a good one whcih you should consider.

    If that is your market, go for it mate :) Get crazy, let nothing stop
    you :) But I think it would be better to sent them a DVD-showreel at
    their request, which shows what you actually can do for them. If they
    don't have a fast pipe to their office, CEO's who generally have less
    attentionspan than a fly, drop out quickly too.

    my 2 cents of dribble

    -martin-
     
    Martin Heffels, Dec 8, 2004
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    Steve King Guest

    I am considering that. However, up to this point we haven't really talked
    about the nature of the content. We are probably in substantial agreement
    that meaningless glitz for glitz sake can detract from the message even if
    the viewer's system is capable of reproducing it. Pop-ups and twirly things
    are annoying. Even with a broadband connection I find them annoying.
    However, there are some things that Flash can do well. Click on the picture
    and see the streaming video almost instantly seems to be one, as opposed to
    click on this box and download either an MPEG, or a Real Video, or a WMV
    file. You choose. In any case, those with dial-ups are going to have to
    wait for the download. My impression is that many of the 'big-uns' are
    still using Flash selectively, just not for silly stuff. Oh, and that local
    grocer is probably not among the prospects that I was talking about.
    Unless, of course, the grocer were owned by a chain whose corporate offices
    almost certainly have high-speed connections.

    Steve King
     
    Steve King, Dec 8, 2004
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