correct CRT monitor color temperature - or Apple Cinema

Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by Destin_FL, Feb 16, 2006.

  1. Destin_FL

    Destin_FL Guest

    Hi all.
    I have resisted buying an LCD panel to do prepress and Photoshop work because
    the graphics capabilities I've seen on everything from $600 down are just plain
    abysmal and unacceptable for doing professionally accurate work.

    So I have a couple of questions: In sticking with my trusty and incredibly sharp
    Viewsonic G90f, I am swayed by all the discussion on the Internet and in the
    groups about using 9300K as the color temp or 5500K ????? I have always used
    9300K because the whites look white and the blacks I can get to black; 5500K
    leaves the whole thing looking dull, dingly, and YELLOW.
    And yet so many "pros" claim 5500 is the right setting. I just don't get how
    that's possible given how dingy and yellow it is.....
    Any thoughts?

    ALSO....... I'm using a Velocity Micro 64-bit system with nVidia 6600 card and
    of course a DVI out is available. I am genuinley wondering about switching over
    to the Apple Cinema Display, probably the 20" at least to start. Is this a
    display that will accurately show color and will accurately show editing of
    photographs???? Every LCD I have seen under $600 for WHATEVER size, produces
    really flaky, fuzzy, poorly rendered graphics and photos, yes, even at the
    monitor's native res.

    Has anyone here used or is using one of the Apple Diplays? With a PC? Is it as
    color-accurate and sharpness-accurate as I'm hoping it will be??????

    Thanks tons!!!!

    Tim
     
    Destin_FL, Feb 16, 2006
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  2. Destin_FL

    rafe b Guest

    I'd disagree strongly with that, but what the heck.


    Nobody uses 5500, but lots of us use 6500. Yeah, it looks
    "dingy" at first but the eye quickly adapts. If you're interested
    in doing "professionally accurate work" you can't use 9300K.

    9300K is meant for generic use in brightly-lit office spaces.
    For photo editing, you want to keep the ambient light low,
    neutral, and diffuse. "Real" pros often work in dark or
    nearly-dark rooms. I generally work with one lamp on --
    a 20-watt flourescent, in the far corner of the room, and
    situated so that it does not shine directly on the monitor.
    The curtains are drawn (unfortunately) so that no daylight
    enters. Yeah, that's a drag, but there's no way around it.


    You should not see "fuzzy" results on an LCD monitor.
    LCDs have none of the convergence or linearity issues
    of CRTs.

    I've been using a Samsung 213T LCD for a year or so
    now, for photo editing and everything else I do on my PC.
    It's not perfect, but *very* pleasant to use and quite
    accurate enough for my work. It's calibrated/profiled
    with a Gretag Eye-One Display. I paid around $750.

    The successor to this monitor is the 214T, $680 at newegg.com.

    21.3", 1600x1200 native res, 900:1 contrast ratio.


    rafe b
    www.terrapinphoto.com
     
    rafe b, Feb 16, 2006
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  3. The expert advice I've seen actually recommends 6500K for photo work
    on monitors, and that's what I've been using (with the old ColorVision
    MC7 monitor calibrator puck).
     
    David Dyer-Bennet, Feb 16, 2006
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  4. Destin_FL

    Destin_FL Guest

    Thanks Rafe, so much... I have always read that Samsung really has it together
    for their displays.

    When I have looked at nearly any LCD display from say $600 at 19" and then on
    down in size/price, I am just amazed at how poorly they render, particularly
    sharpness, compared to my Viewsonic, or pretty much any really good CRT. And
    even to this day I continue to read on the Internet, and the bulk of graphics
    professionals are still using CRT's because of that sharpeness issue and because
    of color accuracy, and being able to actually get a CRT calibrated properly,
    which seems to be a problem for the LCDs. LCD's for text..... sure, awesome...
    but not so much yet for graphics and photography.

    I realize I could go to the big super-expensive LaCie stuff and probably be
    completely thrilled, but I am hoping the Apple Cinema will get me close in
    quality for less money.

    So I'll still be very very interested to hear real-world users' opinions of the
    Cinema Displays.....

    Thanks

    Tim
     
    Destin_FL, Feb 16, 2006
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  5. Destin_FL

    Destin_FL Guest

    I am soooooooo glad to hear that. It has now been 24 hours and it is looking
    less yellow to me than yesterday. OMIGAWD - it was horrible yesterday when I
    switched it over. Still can see a yellow tinge to it though.... maybe tomorrow
    it'll all just seem perfect! :)

    T







    Yes, 6500K is the predominant standard.

    You need to give your eyes a few days to adjust to the proper
    white point. It's amazing how it works, but if all you've ever
    used is 9300K, 6500 will look horrible at first. Then one day,
    usually 2-3 days later you'll turn on your monitor and everything
    will look great.
     
    Destin_FL, Feb 16, 2006
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