Crappy construction Nikon 18-135

Discussion in 'Nikon' started by Sosumi, Feb 20, 2008.

  1. Sosumi

    Sosumi Guest

    I only had my Nikon 18-135 since January and now I discover this:

    http://atlantic-diesel.com/Lens.jpg

    I can't believe it! I thought it was like that but I never noticed before,
    but I understand it happened while putting the lenscap on. I tried it and
    the edge is just completely loose. Not fixed or glued.

    When you put the cap on the lens at an angle, it feels as if you touch the
    side, but it can be this rim or ring that then deforms.

    Is this normal? The quality of my much cheaper 1.8 50 mm is much better; it
    would be impossible to get this and I think it shouldn't happen.

    Anyone else have this problem? Does this ring feel loose (with a small
    screwdriver or tweezers) or is it glued?
     
    Sosumi, Feb 20, 2008
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  2. Sosumi

    Paul Furman Guest

    My 105mm VR macro got damage something like that but not as bad. It's a
    flexible mask of some sort that hangs loosely over the front element,
    the edge is not cemented to the glass. I'm assuming it's not a big deal,
    it seems to work fine. Kind of a lousy design, I don't know what purpose
    it serves, maybe just covering some ugly cosmetic joints?
     
    Paul Furman, Feb 20, 2008
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  3. Sosumi

    jean Guest

    Awww, shucks, Nikon! this is NOT possible, it must have been made by Canon
    to be this crappy, isn't that what you have been saying all the time!

    Bite me!
     
    jean, Feb 20, 2008
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  4. Sosumi

    Sosumi Guest

    That's what I suspected, but on further investigation, it seems to cover a
    small gutter. It seems to be made of aluminum, so it won't be forced back in
    shape.
    I already talked to the importer, Nikon-Europe in Holland, and they ware
    stunned. Possible this problem is applicable to a batch or the whole series,
    in which case they will ask for a return to factory or exchange.
    They appologized several times and promised to have it fixed or exchanged,
    depending on the service centre I go to.

    So I'll keep you up to date.
     
    Sosumi, Feb 20, 2008
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  5. Sosumi

    Sosumi Guest

    Canon can't touch this lens in performance. Nothing they offer is even close
    to equal.
    I think they have other minor problems, like the 5000,- camera that won't
    focus correctly or the 8000,- one that can't make straight pictures.

    And it's not defective, on the contrary: it's an amazing lens for a very
    good price. The damage is only cosmetically. Nevertheless; it shouldn't
    happen, but I'm quite sure this will be corrected satisfactory.
    No thanks. I don't want to be sick again ;-)
     
    Sosumi, Feb 20, 2008
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  6. It's just a trim ring for cosmetics only. It's nothing to worry about.
    This proves that you aren't keeping a filter on the lens. If you did this
    level of damage to the trim ring with the lens cap you will eventually
    scratch the lens surface. Get a new trim ring and always keep a filter on
    the lens.





    Rita
     
    Rita Berkowitz, Feb 20, 2008
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  7. Sosumi

    Sosumi Guest

    What kind of filter? Will it affect the pictures in some way?
    I've never been a big fan of filters, except in the old days when I was
    shooting slides, but then only for special effects.
    But in this case it makes sense.
    Still: if you should use a filter to protect the lens, shouldn't Nikon
    include one in the package and warn you for this? They seemed to be pretty
    embarrassed about it.
    They think it might be a production mistake.
     
    Sosumi, Feb 20, 2008
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  8. Just get yourself a decent quality UV filter by B+W or Hoya and slap it on
    there and forget it. I have filters on all my lenses to protect that front
    element. You'll never notice a decrease in image quality so it's nothing to
    worry about.
    It's no production mistake; it's just the same as any adhesive backed
    aluminum label or nameplate. It will wear quickly or get damaged if not
    handled properly. Just have the vendor or Nikon service send you one so you
    won't be without your lens.




    Rita
     
    Rita Berkowitz, Feb 20, 2008
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  9. Sosumi

    Sosumi Guest

    But that's the problem: it's not "adhesived" anywhere, just the outer ring
    seems to be holding on to the edge.
    You can lift it anywhere on the inside.
    Good idea, but how is it attached? It seems to be "locked" with the same
    thread for a filter. So you have to screw it out and the new one in? Or is
    it glued?
     
    Sosumi, Feb 20, 2008
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  10. I just looked at my 105mm VR and it has the same setup. I assumed that it
    was held in place by adhesive. If yours is different and is locked down by
    a threaded ring you will need to use a spanner wrench. You can make one
    from a set of calipers if you don't. I would see if the store would sell
    the part directly to you. I don't see this part costing more than $5. I
    ordered for my D200 two complete sets of rubber grips and a few other parts
    directly from Nikon an the order wasn't even $50.




    Rita
     
    Rita Berkowitz, Feb 20, 2008
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    TH O Guest

    Nikon's plastic mount lenses have shoddy construction by Nikon
    standards. The optics may be good and certainly better than their
    competitors but the construction is not up to Nikon quality standards.
    I'm amazed how much better constructed my 70-210 AF is compared to these
    lenses. Heck, the 70-210 was a $299 lens and it is better constructed
    than most newer Nikon lenses under $900. Go figure ...
     
    TH O, Feb 20, 2008
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  12. Hey, watch out! If you see someone ID'ed as RichA, run and hide. He
    only allows anti-Canon comments.
     
    Joseph Meehan, Feb 20, 2008
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  13. Sosumi

    jean Guest

    So I'll keep you up to date.

    Save it, not interested...
     
    jean, Feb 21, 2008
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  14. Sosumi

    jean Guest

    One time was when you bought your Nikon and another time was when you found
    out it was crap. Be strong, it will happen again and again and again...
     
    jean, Feb 21, 2008
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  15. Sosumi

    Colin_D Guest

    Why should I run and hide? RichA is a hopelessly biased troll who takes
    the mickey out of Canon owners. Me, I'm a Canonite. 70% of the world's
    pro photogs can't be wrong. Go to any sports fixture and see the sea of
    white lenses, with just the odd black one - and the owner doing his best
    to remain unobtrusive.

    Colin D.
     
    Colin_D, Feb 21, 2008
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  16. Sosumi

    Sosumi Guest

    Holy makrel Rita! Are you a mechanic or something? I don't even know what a
    "spanner wrench" looks like. My tech English is not so good.
    I tried but these people in Holland or Portugal refuse to sell me the ring!
    They only want to look at it and maybe replace it without cost or I may have
    to pay for it, because , as the Dutch said: it was cosmetic and therefore
    not covered by warranty...
    Yesterday I went to see the tech store of Nikon in Sintra, but I never got
    there.

    This is my short story:
    http://atlantic-diesel.com/Badluck/

    If not anything else, I'll have a ring made for it, somewhere. I'm sure the
    quality will be better than original.
    But I'm in no hurry. Don't know about what you and others think, but I think
    the lens does it's job quite well.
    Some people on the Dutch newsgroup were mocking me for using a 18-135 on the
    D300.
    I hardly think any $ 5,000.- lens would do a *much* better job, what do you
    think?

    First the lens, then the car: if I didn't have bad luck, I wouldn't have any
    luck at all ;-)
     
    Sosumi, Feb 21, 2008
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  17. No, just play one on Usenet. I just buy/sell a lot of diverse merchandise
    so you have to learn very quickly what things are and how to fix them should
    they need fixing.
    Odd, Nikon USA will sell you any part you need.
    I would just bend it back as close to where it needs to be as possible and
    with a toothpick dab a little bit of flat black paint on the shiny scratched
    areas. Let dry and slap a filter on it and never worry about it again.
    I never used the lens so I can't honestly answer that. The bottom line is
    if you are happy with the lens, that's all that matters.
    It passes. You got to have a couple bad days to realize how great you have
    it.




    Rita
     
    Rita Berkowitz, Feb 21, 2008
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  18. Sosumi

    Sosumi Guest

    Adn at a lot better price too, believe me...
    That's exactly what I planned today ;-)
    I'm very happy ;-)
    No matter what anybody else might say about you; you´re a very special,
    intelligent lady and you sure brightened my day. Thank you and bless you...
     
    Sosumi, Feb 21, 2008
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  19. Sosumi

    Sosumi Guest

    That must be the best commercial *not* to buy Canon. LOL
    For newspaper photo's you don't need quality, just speed.

    If everyone buys a VW, I must be wrong for driving a Mercedes?
    What is this: dumb and dumber?
     
    Sosumi, Feb 21, 2008
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  20. Sosumi

    G Guest

    I find the postings to this newsgroup some what interesting.

    30 years ago I was a big SLR Nikon fan. But the price of Nikons started to
    get up there and in 1995 I switched to Canon SLR and was a big Canon fan.
    This year I just switched back to Nikon because I feel that the quality of
    Nikon products is pretty good and the quality of Canon products has dropped.
    Canon does not have the same reliability as they used to have, a shorter
    warranty and Nikon offers more bang for the buck. Nikon lens come with a 5
    year Canadian warranty and the Nikon Cameras come with a 2 year warranty.
    Canons one year If my lens exhibited the same problem I would ship it back
    to Nikon for repair.


    Why should I run and hide? RichA is a hopelessly biased troll who takes
    the mickey out of Canon owners. Me, I'm a Canonite. 70% of the world's
    pro photogs can't be wrong. Go to any sports fixture and see the sea of
    white lenses, with just the odd black one - and the owner doing his best
    to remain unobtrusive.

    Colin D.
     
    G, Feb 21, 2008
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