Crossing the Line?

Discussion in 'Professional Video Production' started by MikeL, Jul 14, 2003.

  1. MikeL

    MikeL Guest

    If your taping a speaker head on (cam 1) and you have a 2nd camera up
    closer to the right(45 degree angle) and a 3rd camera up close and to
    the left opposite but like camera 2...is that considered crossing the line?

    Seems like I see that on bands being recorded from time to time.

    thanks for your input.

    Mike
     
    MikeL, Jul 14, 2003
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  2. Shooting "bands" and "normal video" are two different things.
    No rules for shooting "bands" OTOH, confusing for the viewer
    trying to follow dialog or movement when you "cross the line"
     
    Richard Crowley, Jul 15, 2003
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    Larry Jandro Guest

    An appropriate method of getting from camera 2 to 3 would be to go
    through camera 1.

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    Larry Jandro, Jul 15, 2003
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  4. MikeL

    MikeL Guest

    Larry,
    are you saying that in this situation, it would be acceptable as long as
    you switch through camera 1?

    Do you see this setup often?

    thanks for your responses...very imformative...

    ML
     
    MikeL, Jul 15, 2003
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    David McCall Guest

    That is how I've always interpreted the "crossing the line" thing.
    You can go where ever you want as long as the angle doesn't
    change too much. Too much is when a person in the shot was
    facing to the right of frame in the previous shot, and now he is
    facing to the left. This applies to people, buildings, cars, or even
    a vase of flowers. It is very disconcerting to the viewer to
    have to reorient themselves.

    So, absolutely, in his example you would be compelled to
    get from camera 2 to camera 3 by way of camera 1. If 2
    was tight on the singer, and 3 was in on the drummer,
    then you could get away with it (as long as the singer and
    the drummer didn't appear at the same time in either shot).

    A lot of the time people use a wide shot from the camera 1
    position in the above example. Often it is a lock off. I've never
    really liked the look of that shot. A wide usually looks soft
    in video and it can get you into trouble in a situation where
    the piece is to be edited. In the wide you can see everybody's
    position (hands, angle, head, etc.). If you make an edit, and
    want to use the wide in-between, you likely will find that it
    is a jump cut. I like Bill's idea of audience shot from the
    back of the stage, with the band in the foreground, for an
    entertainment type program (very nice Bill). The shot is
    obscure enough, that minor jumps may not be noticed.
    For a talk show, the most useful shot to have
    "always available" is a shot of the host.

    David
     
    David McCall, Jul 15, 2003
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