CS5 upgrade license renders CS3 an invalid license?

Discussion in 'Digital SLR' started by Alan Browne, Jun 1, 2011.

  1. Alan Browne

    Alan Browne Guest

    I assume that when I upgraded to CS5 that the CS3 license became invalid
    .... at least for installation on another machine?

    On my iMac I have both installed (I never "de-installed" CS3, but use CS5).

    But I still have the original CS3 disk... and a new Macbook Air to go on
    vacation with this summer.

    What's the technical, ethical call here?

    (I'll post this at Adobe too).
    Alan Browne, Jun 1, 2011
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  2. Alan Browne

    Mike Guest

    Contact Adobe support, I am sure that they can correct this. Most
    versions of Photoshop have a transfer of license function. As you bought
    both versions, you have a right for assistance.
    Mike, Jun 1, 2011
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  3. Alan Browne

    Alan Browne Guest

    I've posted the q at the Adobe PS/Mac forum. See what pops up.
    Alan Browne, Jun 1, 2011
  4. Alan Browne

    Savageduck Guest

    Your CS3 is valid, you paid for it. I have CS2, CS4 upgrade, CS5
    upgrade installed and working on my MacBookPro. On My new iMac I only
    installed CS5 upgrade and entered my prior version serial number.
    The CS5 Upgrade requires an installed prior version, or a registered
    serial number for the prior version.

    You are licensed for installation on two machines. If you are saying
    that you already have CS3 original with the CS5 upgrade on two
    machines, and you have neither version on your MBA, there is nothing
    stopping you from deactivating CS3 on one, or both of the other two
    You should be able to install CS3 on the MBA without issue.
    If the MBA is your second machine just install the CS5 upgrade and go for it.
    So you could well have two Macs running CS3 and two Macs running CS5
    upgrade all without ethical issues.

    The same is true for LR.
    Savageduck, Jun 1, 2011
  5. Interesting question.

    At least for the academic versions (CS2 and CS5) I have,
    you are allowed to install twice. So if your portable
    will handle it, you could install CS5. Read the license.

    If the portable won't handle CS5, then try CS3 on it.

    Doug McDonald
    Doug McDonald, Jun 1, 2011
  6. Alan Browne

    PeterN Guest

    Almost. If he purchased two originals you would be correct. When the
    upgrade is activated, the original becomes invalid. The concept behind
    the upgrade is that you are substituting the license for the newer
    version and agreeing to discontinue using the older version.
    PeterN, Jun 1, 2011
  7. Alan Browne

    Alan Browne Guest

    Ah Great! ( I love you guys who actually read the EULA! ). The Adobe
    Forum resulted in a reply that says 2 machines okay, 4 machines (2 x
    CS3, 2 x CS5) is probably not kosher.
    Alan Browne, Jun 1, 2011
  8. Alan Browne

    Alan Browne Guest


    I don't believe there is much processing difference between CS3 and CS5
    at the basic level of editing, there is just more stuff it can do and in
    doing some of those it may choke somewhat.

    I was about to DL either Elements ($70) or Aperture 3 ($80), but it
    occurred to me there might be a legal way to use CS3.

    Using CS5 is just better.

    The MB Pro I have (recently bought used) shares system memory with
    graphics memory and it's limited (can't be upgraded) beyond 2 GB.

    We'll see how it goes.
    Alan Browne, Jun 1, 2011
  9. Alan Browne

    Savageduck Guest

    As the responder "Marion Driscoll" on the Adobe forum stated;
    "The typical retail license allows you to install and activate
    Photoshop on two computers. If you own two machines, you could load CS3
    and/or CS5 on both. You'd be dancing around the license if you had 4
    computers and loaded CS3 on two and CS5 on the other two."

    There is no issue with running both a prior version and an update on
    the same computer. I have not had a need to even test the four machine
    trick, with CS3 on two and an upgrade on two, but I would believe it
    feasible, but perhaps a tad unethical.
    Savageduck, Jun 1, 2011
  10. Alan Browne

    Alan Browne Guest

    Sure enough: "2.5 Portable or Home Computer Use. Subject to the
    important restrictions set forth in Section 2.6, the
    primary user of the Computer on which the Software is installed under
    Section 2.2 (“Primary User”) may
    install a second copy of the Software for his or her exclusive use on
    either a portable Computer or a
    Computer located at his or her home, provided that the Software on the
    portable or home Computer is not
    used at the same time as the Software on the primary Computer."

    I think that's bending it.
    Alan Browne, Jun 1, 2011
  11. Alan Browne

    Savageduck Guest

    Are you talking RAM?

    My 2009 MBP has 4 GB RAM, Core 2 Duo 2.93Ghz, & Dual NVIDIA GeForce
    9400M (256MB) & GeForce 9600M GT (512MB) for graphics.
    Savageduck, Jun 1, 2011
  12. Alan Browne

    Savageduck Guest

    Probably, but not completely outside the realm of possibility. I have
    yet to test that.
    Savageduck, Jun 1, 2011
  13. Alan Browne

    Alan Browne Guest

    This is a MB Air 2009: 2 GB, Core Duo 2.13 GHz (128 GB SSD).

    The RAM cannot be upgraded (the SSD can).

    Anyway, when her highness (I bought it for her) gets home we'll install
    CS5 (part of teaching her "Mac"). I'm curious to see how much disk
    space it takes and how well it converts raw to DNG (speed).
    Alan Browne, Jun 1, 2011
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    PeterN Guest

    I read the EULA and agree with the Adobe Forum. I don't want to know
    about anything else.
    PeterN, Jun 1, 2011
  15. Alan Browne

    PeterN Guest

    PeterN, Jun 1, 2011
  16. Alan Browne

    Savageduck Guest

    Well, as quoted from above you state, "The MB Pro I have". This led me
    to believe you had an MBP as well as the MBA (air) which you originally
    stated you intended to attempt the CS install on.

    ....and I doubt that CS5, or Bridge will convert RAW to DNG.
    LR or DNG convertor will do that. Easy enough to install.
    < http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=5023&promoid=DTEHQ >
    Savageduck, Jun 2, 2011
  17. Alan Browne

    Alan Browne Guest

    Sorry. I think in terms of MBP, but it is an MB Air. (My son has an
    MBP, but uses the GIMP).
    Bridge indeed converts raw to DNG during upload from the camera. In
    fact does it with better re-naming options and so on than DNG converter.
    Alan Browne, Jun 2, 2011
  18. Alan Browne

    Alan Browne Guest

    During the install of CS5 (which I downloaded) I entered its serial
    number (key, whatever). Then it asked for name of the package the
    serial number of "basis" package. Entered that serial number (from the
    box). That suggests it is a 'chain' based on the original package and
    that they are not severable.

    Per a poster on the Adobe forums, the EULA states that you can run
    overlapping versions (say CS3 and CS5) on the same computer, but that at
    some point you have to de-install the prior version (w/o being specific).
    Alan Browne, Jun 2, 2011
  19. Alan Browne

    Savageduck Guest

    That is true if importing directly from your camera into Bridge using
    "File" ->> "Get Photos From Camera". This does not work when using a
    card reader.

    Otherwise your options are to open an individual RAW file, batch or a
    series of RAW files in ACR, either from Bridge or any other where
    folder you have stored the Raw files.
    < http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/ACR-01.jpg >
    After opening a series or batch in ACR, choose "select All" and "Save Image".

    You then have the same renaming options as you have in LR.
    < http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/ACR-03.jpg >
    Savageduck, Jun 2, 2011
  20. Alan Browne

    Savageduck Guest

    My oversight it will do this from a card reader if the appropriate
    check box is tagged in Bridge general preferences.
    Savageduck, Jun 2, 2011
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