cutting and pasting between layers- maintaining original position

Discussion in 'Photoshop Tutorials' started by TC, Mar 24, 2006.

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    TC Guest

    Probably a basic question but here goes

    When I select and cut an object in layer 1 and paste it into layer 2, its
    position moves. This is a headacked when the object is some precise shading
    or something else where the original position is difficult to reestablish

    So the question is - is there a command to enable the paste to be in
    presisely the same location in layer 2 as it was in layer 1 ?

    Thanks
     
    TC, Mar 24, 2006
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    Guns/Zen4 Guest

    I'm one of those empirical "learn by doing" types. So my solution might
    not be the right one, but it works for me.

    After I make a selection, I hit CTRL-J. That copies the selection in
    position to a new layer. If I would want to put it on an existing
    layer, I'd move the layers one on top of the other, select the upper
    one and "merge down".

    PS: I think there's another way, holding ctrl or shift or something
    down when you drag the selection to the new layer, but I'm not sure.
    Someone will come along with the right answer.

    Glenn
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    Guns/Zen4, Mar 24, 2006
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    Guns/Zen4 Guest

    I'm one of those empirical "learn by doing" types. So my solution might
    not be the right one, but it works for me.

    After I make a selection, I hit CTRL-J. That copies the selection in
    position to a new layer. If I would want to put it on an existing
    layer, I'd move the layers one on top of the other, select the upper
    one and "merge down".

    PS: I think there's another way, holding ctrl or shift or something
    down when you drag the selection to the new layer, but I'm not sure.
    Someone will come along with the right answer.

    Glenn
    Photo gallery at http://faczen.smugmug.com
    Reply via the web portal at www.faczen.com
    or email usenet at faczen dot ca
     
    Guns/Zen4, Mar 24, 2006
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    Guns/Zen4 Guest

    I'm one of those empirical "learn by doing" types. So my solution might
    not be the right one, but it works for me.

    After I make a selection, I hit CTRL-J. That copies the selection in
    position to a new layer. If I would want to put it on an existing
    layer, I'd move the layers one on top of the other, select the upper
    one and "merge down".

    PS: I think there's another way, holding ctrl or shift or something
    down when you drag the selection to the new layer, but I'm not sure.
    Someone will come along with the right answer.

    Glenn
    Photo gallery at http://faczen.smugmug.com
    Reply via the web portal at www.faczen.com
    or email usenet at faczen dot ca
     
    Guns/Zen4, Mar 24, 2006
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    Guns/Zen4 Guest

    Sorry about the triple post. Googlegroups finger troubles.
     
    Guns/Zen4, Mar 24, 2006
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    TC Guest

    Hey - no problem - a useful answer deserves to be posted several times :)

    If anyone has the answer to : holding ctrl or shift or something down when
    you drag the selection to the new layer.

    I'd love to know
     
    TC, Mar 24, 2006
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    Bill Hilton Guest

    TC writes ...
    Holding down the shift key while you drag (move) a layer to another
    file will *center* it, which is OK if you're moving a layer to another
    file of the same pixel dimensions but not what you want if moving a
    smaller selection.

    Guns idea of putting the selection on a new layer with cntrl-j should
    work fine so long as you're staying in the same document or if you are
    moving it to another document with the same pixel dimensions, in which
    case holding down 'shift' during the layer move will work fine, but if
    you move just the selection (as opposed to the entire layer) you don't
    want it centered, you want it aligned.
     
    Bill Hilton, Mar 24, 2006
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    Hunt Guest

    OK, here's another, though similar way to do it:

    Make your Selection, Selection>Save Selection (now Alpha 1, or whatever),
    Ctrl-X (Cut), hit New Layer icon, Selection>Load Selection (Alpha1), make new
    Layer active, Ctrl-V (Paste). It will come into the new Layer within the
    Selection, and be placed exactly as it was in the original Layer.

    Only holdup is that you have to Save the Selection, as it disappears when you
    Cut, and you want it for placement.

    Hunt
     
    Hunt, Mar 24, 2006
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    edjh Guest

    Ctrl-J: Layer Via Copy. Shift-Ctrl-J: Layer Via Cut. Holding down Alt
    while doing these gives you a Layer Naming dialog.
     
    edjh, Mar 24, 2006
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    edjh Guest

    Wow! That's the long way around the barn!
     
    edjh, Mar 24, 2006
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  11. Select the area you want to cut. Select "Edit>Cut" and then "Edit>Paste Into". A new layer will be created containing your
    selection and a layer mask. You can select the layer mask in the layers palette and delete it by dragging it to the trashcan.
    Select "Apply" to the dialog.

    Larry
     
    Larry Scripts, Mar 24, 2006
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    Robert Strom Guest


    Shift+drag will pull a section out of one image and drop it exactly
    into the same spot in another image as long as the two images have the
    same pixel dimensions and the selected area has not been feathered
    until the mask falls outside the canvas.

    Robert Strom
     
    Robert Strom, Mar 25, 2006
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    Hunt Guest

     
    Hunt, Mar 25, 2006
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    tacit Guest

    Don't do this.

    If you are cutting and pasting between layers, you're wasting memory.
    Instead, make your selection, and then use Layer->New->Layer Via Cut.

    You will get a new layer in exactly the same place, and you will not
    waste memory by using the Clipboard.
     
    tacit, Mar 27, 2006
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    Dave Guest

    to add to what tacit said, one of the preferences that is a must:

    go Edit/Preferences/General and UNselect 'Export Clipboard';
    and you will have a clean clipboard everytime PS is restarted.

    My other 'always selected' is 'Zoom with Scroll Wheel'
    also at General.

    Dave
     
    Dave, Mar 28, 2006
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