D100 now cheaper than D70?

Discussion in 'Digital SLR' started by RichA, Apr 22, 2005.

  1. RichA

    RichA Guest

    I saw the D100 going for about $120 less than the
    D70. Same lens.
    -Rich
     
    RichA, Apr 22, 2005
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    Tom Scales Guest

    Same store, both new? Post a link.
     
    Tom Scales, Apr 23, 2005
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    Sheldon Guest

    What's the advantage of the D100 at this point in time, and compared to the
    D70?
     
    Sheldon, Apr 23, 2005
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  4. RichA

    RichA Guest

    I don't know that is has any. I thought Nikon's lower end were
    "number based" D50, D70, D100 in terms of features or build-quality.
    -Rich
     
    RichA, Apr 23, 2005
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    Bubbabob Guest

    Cable release and mirror slap elimination. Uncompressed RAW files, if you
    think that's really a plus.
     
    Bubbabob, Apr 23, 2005
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    andrew29 Guest

    From what I remember, the D100 has a much better anti-aliasing filter.

    Andrew.
     
    andrew29, Apr 23, 2005
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  7. And the D100 may have a better viewfinder (pentaprism instead of mirrors).
     
    Philip Homburg, Apr 23, 2005
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    Tom Scales Guest

    Not really true. The hype about moire on the D70 is just that. Hype.
     
    Tom Scales, Apr 23, 2005
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  9. RichA

    Tom Scales Guest

    Nope. Both have a pentaprism. Urban legend that the D70 is mirrors. Poor
    wording on Nikon's part.
     
    Tom Scales, Apr 23, 2005
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  10. -Mirror Lock-Up
    -Available Vertical Grip (though there is now an after-market grip for the
    D70, it is somewhat of a kludge)
    -Remote Cable Shutter Release (added to the D70s, and available on the D70
    as an after-market retrofit)
    -Less Moire, because the AA filter on the D100 is "stronger" than the one on
    the D70.

    The D100 is being cleared out in preparation for its replacement, which is
    why it is on sale.
     
    Steven M. Scharf, Apr 24, 2005
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    Bubbabob Guest

    Which results in mushier images than the D-70's.
     
    Bubbabob, Apr 24, 2005
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  12. RichA

    Bubbabob Guest

    It's real, and I can tell you, as I use both cameras every day, that the
    D70 is more liable to it. The tradeoff is that its images are sharper.
    Moire is rare but it happens and I have run into annoying amounts of it on
    about 20 frames out of maybe 4500. All on manmade objects, mostly
    architecture and fabrics. If you shoot landscapes you could wear the camera
    out before you'll see one.
     
    Bubbabob, Apr 24, 2005
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  13. It's all trade-offs. As sensor resolution increase, this will be less of a
    problem.
     
    Steven M. Scharf, Apr 24, 2005
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  14. RichA

    Walt Hanks Guest

    Thanks. It is always good to hear from someone who actually uses the
    equipment in question. So I would like to ask you a question (and anyone
    else who cares to answer).

    I shoot primarily landscapes for pleasure, and people and events for my work
    in public affairs. In your experience, would the slower buffer and shooting
    rate on the D-100 be a significant issue?

    I do occasionally shoot amateur sports too, but not for publication.
    Frankly, I'm wondering if the availability of a vertical grip and lack of
    moiré are more important than the added sharpness and speed of a D-70. I
    rarely print larger than 8X10.

    Walt
     
    Walt Hanks, Apr 24, 2005
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    Tom Scales Guest

    I also use the D70 and D100 and perhaps it is more common on the D70, but 20
    frams out of 4500? Who cares!
     
    Tom Scales, Apr 24, 2005
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  16. RichA

    Tom Scales Guest

    Since I shoot the D70, D100 and D2X, and shoot about 40% landscapes, I'll
    jump in. The D70 and D100 are interchangeable for landscapes. Personally, I
    don't shoot very many fast-moving landscapes, so I do not find the buffer of
    the D100 to be a major limitation. For landscapes, they are essentially
    interchangeable and,in fact, I put two different lenses on the bodies,
    usually the 18-70 and the 12-24 and shoot with them both. I don't even
    notice which body is which.

    Now the D70 does have a couple features I like. The images are more useable
    'right out of the camera', which is handy in snapshot mode. It also is
    better for sports, because of the buffer. I have never found the lack of a
    vertical grip to be an issue and do not own one for the D100.

    If I was going to buy one now, I cannot see any reason to buy a D100. The
    D70 is superior in many ways.

    Tom
    who really shoots almost all D2X now.
     
    Tom Scales, Apr 24, 2005
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    Jeremy Nixon Guest

    Yeah, in the nearly-a-year that I've used a D70 I've never seen any at all.

    I guess that's mostly down to how fast you shoot. However, I can say that
    one of the really nice things about the D70 is the speed -- you never have
    to wait for the camera.
    For that, speed will matter.
    I really don't think the moiré is worth worrying about. For a vertical grip,
    I guess that, too, is a matter of preference; I'd rather not have one. Now
    that I've got a D2x, which has a vertical-grip shutter release built in, I'm
    finding it as annoying as I thought I would; I keep hitting the damn thing
    by accident, so I shut it off. I doubt I'll ever turn it back on, since I
    have never felt the slightest interest in using a vertical grip. Today was
    the first nice day since I got the camera, so the vertical release became
    annoying enough for me to not want it there after only an hour or two of
    shooting.
     
    Jeremy Nixon, Apr 24, 2005
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    Sheldon Guest

    I had the same problem with my old Nikon F with a motor drive. I put duct
    tape over the vertical shutter release and it's still there today.
     
    Sheldon, Apr 25, 2005
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  19. You can get a vertical grip for the D70, just not from Nikon. It's a bit of
    a kludge, but it's okay.

    The moire versus sharpness is a trade-off. I think that in post processing
    that it is easier to remove the moire than to increase the sharpness, but
    fortunately I don't have to make those trade-offs.
     
    Steven M. Scharf, Apr 25, 2005
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  20. If you use digital cameras, you make those trade-offs.
     
    Ben Rosengart, Apr 25, 2005
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