D50 LCD Monitor Preview??

Discussion in 'Digital SLR' started by Mbt6, Dec 28, 2005.

  1. Mbt6

    Mbt6 Guest

    I've been through the manual, and I understand most of the functions of the
    camera. Still one problem. I can't figure out how to turn on the LCD monitor
    to compose a photo before the photo is taken. What am I missing?
     
    Mbt6, Dec 28, 2005
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    G.T. Guest

    You're missing the fact that the D50 is a DSLR and you compose your
    photo in the viewfinder. Or are you a troll? DSLRs don't do live preview.

    Greg
     
    G.T., Dec 28, 2005
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    Bob Guest


    The only exception to this, as far as I know, is the Canon 20DA. This
    special model is for astrophotography and it does have LCD preview. It has
    other special features for atronuts, too.

    If DSLRs did have this LCD preview feature, then they would (hopefully) also
    provide a simple/quick method for blocking the viewfinder -- else light
    would get into the sensor (as is also the case with film SLRs).

    I don't think the OP is a troll. A lot of people are buying DSLRs, and it's
    their first SLR experience.

    Bob
     
    Bob, Dec 28, 2005
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    Nomen Nescio Guest

    WRONG! The 20Da doesn't have live preview. It has a live view during
    exposure only during long astro imaging exposures. This allows some tweaks
    to the telescope camera combo.
     
    Nomen Nescio, Dec 28, 2005
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    Bob Guest

    Well, as Monica Lewinsky used to say --- "Close, but no cigar."

    I stand corrected.

    Bob
     
    Bob, Dec 28, 2005
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  6. OK, put the camera back into the box it came in and get your money
    back. You're obviously in way over your head.
     
    Randall Ainsworth, Dec 28, 2005
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    cimawr Guest

    Still one problem. I can't figure out how to >turn on the LCD monitor
    Erm...the fact that it's an SLR - Single Lens Reflex- camera, and they
    don't function that way. The LCD monitor on a DSLR is *only* for review
    of pictures stored in memory; IOW, after they're taken.

    As noted in another post, you compose pictures on a DSLR exactly the
    same way you would compose them with a film SLR - through the
    viewfinder of the camera (which looks directly through the lens).

    Did you put the lens on the camera yourself? If so, you should have
    noticed that there was a mirror behind it.
    That mirror reflects the view through the lens up to your eye in the
    viewfinder - you see exactly what the lens is looking at, and that's
    what will be in your picture.
    The mirror COVERS the sensor which records the picture - in a film
    SLR, it covers the film - so it's impossible for the monitor to show
    what the camera is looking at.
    (If it were physically possible, it would be a waste of battery
    power - not to mention that you'd get a lot more camera shake,
    especially if you use a long lens. There are good reasons why SLR
    users, film or otherwise, hold cameras in a way that keeps them as
    still as possible, or use tri- or mono-pods.)
    When you're ready to take your picture, and you push the button, the
    mirror flips up out of the way, and the light from the lens goes to the
    sensor (or the film) and creates the picture.

    If you want to be able to hold the camera out at arm's length and look
    at a dinky electronic representation of what the lens is looking at
    (rather than looking directly at what the lens is seeing), you don't
    want an SLR.
    However, if you want to see exactly what your camera does - or,
    looked at the other way around, have your camera take pictures of
    exactly what you're seeing - have no lag in shooting pictures, be able
    to interchange lenses, etc. etc. etc., well.... enjoy your D50, and do
    some reading up on basic SLR use. :)
     
    cimawr, Dec 28, 2005
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    Wilhelm Guest

    What you are missing is the point. Get your money back on the Nikon and go
    find a nice point and shoot.
     
    Wilhelm, Dec 28, 2005
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    luvjava Guest



    FLAME ON


    I just frigging amazed hope people here act toward others.

    Hey Randall,

    Would you react the same way to someone if they asked you the same question
    at a counter in a camera store where you were volunteering?
    That's how I see the Usenet, NO ONE forced you to reply to MBT6's post, you
    choose to be here, but rather than answering his VALID question, you would
    rather be a PRICK, I guess you have the right to, because you were born
    onto this earth knowing everything except that you are an asshole, and now
    that I've told you that, you know EVERYTHING.

    Flame off
     
    luvjava, Dec 29, 2005
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    G.T. Guest

    Trolls don't generally ask these types of questions in camera stores. Very
    few people troll in real life.

    Greg
     
    G.T., Dec 29, 2005
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  11. Don't you find it amazing how people don't research products *before*
    they plunk down the cash? It happens with computers, cameras, you name
    it.

    This moronic question comes up here every couple weeks or so. And I
    will continue to respond similarly each and every time.
     
    Randall Ainsworth, Dec 29, 2005
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  12. There is one DSLR that provides a (sort of) live preview from the
    sensor, Fuji's S3. See "Record: Live Image mode" on this page:
    http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/fujifilms3pro/page8.asp
    The mirror, which must be up to allow light from the lens to reach the
    sensor, blocks the viewfinder. It does on film cameras also. The reason
    for a shutter on the eyepiece of film cameras is to block light from
    affecting the exposure calculation when that is determined by sensors
    that are attached to the prism.
    So many trolls are so unimaginative that it is sometimes hard to tell
    the honest posters from the time-wasters these days, but like you I
    prefer to give people the benefit of the doubt.
     
    maxsilverstar, Dec 29, 2005
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    John L Rice Guest

    If it was the same person asking each time then yeah, that person would be a
    moron. But it's different people each time, right? People that are new to a
    subject tend to ask similar questions. Is that so surprising? It would be
    amusing to watch you be an instructor somewhere for what ever subject. Each
    time you got a new class you'd be whining and complaining that the freaking
    stupid students ask the same stupid questions every year! hhhmmmm . . who's
    the moron again?

    John L Rice

    PS - you spelled your last name wrong, the 'i' and 'n' are reversed ;-)
     
    John L Rice, Dec 29, 2005
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  14. It's a stupid question *every* time it's asked.
    Clever...gee...I never heard that one before.
     
    Randall Ainsworth, Dec 29, 2005
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    John L Rice Guest

    Yes you are.
    Hehe, yeah, I didn't even consider that, my bad.

    Best of luck to you in what ever you do.

    John
     
    John L Rice, Dec 29, 2005
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  16. Making fun of people's names is a particularly low form of rhetoric in
    the first place.

    Doing it while demonstrating that you don't know how to spell the word
    you're thinking of, however, sets a new benchmark in lameness!
     
    David Dyer-Bennet, Dec 29, 2005
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    Nomen Nescio Guest

    I see people in shops holding DSLR cameras at arms length all the time. Note
    many people order on-line to save a few dollars so they don't get any advice
    on their purchases. BTW: have you ever been in 47th Photo, and wanted to ask
    a question?
     
    Nomen Nescio, Dec 29, 2005
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    cimawr Guest

    Exactly. There's no such thing as a stupid question when somebody's
    new to something - what's stupid is NOT asking questions... not to
    mention wasting everybody's time and bandwidth with snotty "you're too
    stupid to own a DSLR" responses that don't give any information.
    And even if the OP is a troll, so what? It's still a legitimate
    question from somebody who's coming to to DSLRs from having used P&S
    digitals, and giving a sensible answer may help someone else.

    It's fairly obvious, though, after just a short time reading this NG,
    that a lot of the "regulars" are immature enough to prefer trying to
    show off how superior they think they are to sharing information.
    None of us started out in ANY subject we're experts on *as*
    experts... and I'm willing to bet all the "you're so stupid" posters
    asked, and ask, their share of questions when they start out with
    something new.
    (The immature side of *me* suspects it would be fun to have Mr.
    Ainsworth and his ilk in either the judo class I used to teach, or as a
    beginning agility handler in the class I assistant teach... )
    Heh. That was my thought, as well - also that he'd be a useless git
    if he tried to work in a camera store. People who *really* know and
    care about subjects are always willing to teach new people, IMO and
    IME... even if it's done with rolled eyes and a sigh behind the
    person's back...
     
    cimawr, Dec 29, 2005
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  19. Somebody spent in the area of $1,000 without doing research prior to
    the sale. That's pretty stupid.
    No, I didn't start in photography as an expert. But I did my homework
    before spending large amounts of money on equipment.
     
    Randall Ainsworth, Dec 29, 2005
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    cimawr Guest

    The fact that the OP (if not a troll) wasn't aware of one minor issue
    - that the LCD on a DSLR lacks a function which most digital cameras
    have - doesn't automatically equate to having done no research
    whatsoever.
    It's perfectly possible that someone who's been using a P&S digital
    could "do his homework" in regards to picking a moderately-priced
    entry-level DSLR when he's ready to step up to a better camera, and not
    have known that the LCD on a DSLR lacks a function that the P&S
    digitals have.
    Perhaps $1,000 isn't a "large amount of money" to the OP (it's chump
    change to some people I've known)... and see above. The D50 *is* an
    entry-level DSLR, so why should you get your knickers in a twist
    because an entry-level user has bought one?

    Are we to believe that every time you've purchased a new piece of
    equipment - and I don't mean just camera equipment; could be a car, a
    DVD player , a computer, a cell phone, etc. - you've known every
    single detail of exactly how every little bell and whistle on it worked
    BEFORE you started using it, as well as how exactly how everything
    functioned under the hood (or case)?
    Somehow, I don't think so.

    I'd be willing to lay money that not only have you figured out some
    things out as you've gone along, and that you've asked the occasional
    question of more experienced users, but that you've spent fair sums on
    money on some of your possessions without knowing exactly how they
    function internally.
     
    cimawr, Dec 29, 2005
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