DC10 or DC10+

Discussion in 'Amateur Video Production' started by plouf, Jan 2, 2006.

  1. plouf

    plouf Guest

    Which is the difference between these two cards?
     
    plouf, Jan 2, 2006
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    Ginchy Guest

    probably the + had updated software but i imagine the cards were the same!
     
    Ginchy, Jan 3, 2006
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    Mr Blobby Guest

    The DC10 only captures at half frame at a max 3000kbs, the + at full
    frame at 6000kbs.
     
    Mr Blobby, Jan 3, 2006
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    Markus Zingg Guest

    Which is the difference between these two cards?

    They are extremly similar hardware wise. The DC10 is using some
    slightly older chipsets.

    Under W9x you experience limitations of the driver for the DC10.

    However if you run the card with the "latest" DirectShow incarnation
    (i.e. you use Studio and it's drivers on W2k and up) the boards behave
    absolutely identical.

    HTH

    Markus
     
    Markus Zingg, Jan 3, 2006
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  5. What Studio do you mean?

    mvh/kjell
     
    Kjell Andersson, Jan 3, 2006
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    Markus Zingg Guest

    What Studio do you mean?

    If I remember correctly the drivers that come with Pinnacle Studio 9
    and up will "magically" turn your DC10 into a DC10+ ON W2K AND BETTER.

    It's a while since I last cared for it, but I heard that those drivers
    can be downloaded "standalone" somewhere. I have no clue wether this
    would be "official" nor legal though.

    One thing to remember is that under the platforms mentioned these are
    DirectShow filters, that said you can (IMHO) only use Studio to
    capture or the Fitler Graph application (asuming you know how to build
    up a propper graph) that comes along with the DirectShow SDK. What I
    know for sure is that these drivers do not have a WDM wrapper VfW or
    native VfW interface, so AVI_IO, VirtualDub etc can't work with them
    nor can you use Premiere.

    HTH

    Markus
     
    Markus Zingg, Jan 3, 2006
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  7. Interesting-Thanks

    mvh/Kjell
     
    Kjell Andersson, Jan 3, 2006
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    plouf Guest

    I have installed pinnacle studio 9 with my DC10 card. I have tried to
    install the official driver from pinnacle
    "DC10plusHardwareInstall.exe".
    The card is seen as a DC10+ one, there is no conflict. But the driver
    "DCxxMJPEG" can't start. :'(
    Have you any solution?
    Nicolas
     
    plouf, Jan 3, 2006
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    Markus Zingg Guest

    I have installed pinnacle studio 9 with my DC10 card. I have tried to
    Hmm,

    I don't think its a general driver issue. Well, at least I know that
    it is suposed to work, eventually not fully tested because the DC10
    was dated already back when the driver was ported to W2k. I *think* I
    remember the driver developper mentioned that it works but since it's
    several years ago I'm honestly not sure anymore.

    Are you sure there is no other kind of conflict in the sytem
    preventing the driver from working?

    Markus
     
    Markus Zingg, Jan 3, 2006
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    plouf Guest

    I have installed pinnacle studio 9 with my DC10 card. I have tried to
    When I start the test for this card, It's written that's my card is
    maybe damaged but it's false because it runs perfectly with win9x.
    There is no other conflict ... :'(
     
    plouf, Jan 3, 2006
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  11. In reality you will experience no better editing/capture features using the
    DC10 card than if you went with a generic 1394 card coupled with something
    like the ADS Pyro A/V Link. With the DC10 the only realtime you will get is
    the capture files proper. Any and all transitions, titles, effects will have
    to be rendered - just the same as if using a generic 1394 with A/V Link and
    the Microsoft DV Codec. Why beat your head on the wall?
     
    Larry Johnson, Jan 3, 2006
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    plouf Guest

    In reality you will experience no better editing/capture features using the
    I want use my video card because I have buy it !
     
    plouf, Jan 3, 2006
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    Glen Guest

    I spent months trying to get a Dazzle Snazzi 1 PCI card (actually
    it was an L.A. Vision 8000, close relative of the DC10+) working
    under Win2K, and even though I eventually succeeded in enabling
    basic capturing, it still didn't work as it was supposed to... e.g.
    blue screens unless the capture software was loaded/unloaded in
    an exact order, etc etc. What a pain in the ass. I didn't want to
    trash the card because I had paid over $400 for it.

    Finally I ditched it and got a Hauppauge PVR-150 MPEG1/2
    encoder for less than one quarter the price of the Snazzi. I wish
    I had done it a lot sooner and saved all the hassle.
     
    Glen, Jan 4, 2006
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    Ginchy Guest

    Ginchy, Jan 5, 2006
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