Deal at Costco on Panasonic charger and 6AA and 2 AAA

Discussion in 'Panasonic Lumix' started by Mr. Rather B. Beachen, Apr 9, 2004.

  1. Just got back-
    A panasonic quick charger plus 6 AA 2100 MAH and 2 AAA 750 mah
    for $19.00


    Thought some of you might be interested.


    It's Mr. Rather B. Beachen to you

     
    Mr. Rather B. Beachen, Apr 9, 2004
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    Skip M Guest

    Thanks, just had two Monster AAs rot out, which is weird in itself...
     
    Skip M, Apr 9, 2004
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    Frank ess Guest

    I've bought a dozen of these sets in the past few months. They charge
    fast, last long, and fit the electronics I've tried them in. Why so
    many? They make good gifts; almost no one doesn't need AAs and AAAs.

    You can't have too many

    1) Flashlights
    2) Pocket Knives
    3) Scissors
    4) AAAs and chargers
    5) ...???...

    Frank ess
     
    Frank ess, Apr 9, 2004
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    John Navas Guest

    [POSTED TO rec.photo.digital - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

    In <[email protected]> on Thu, 8 Apr 2004 19:47:20 -0700, "Skip
    I wouldn't touch anything "Monster" -- all hype, no substance.
     
    John Navas, Apr 9, 2004
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    Skip M Guest

    wife bought them, I didn't, at Circuit City, she recognized the "Monster"
    name from discussions about Monster Cable back in the '80s. Didn't realize
    that we were deriding the brand as hype...

    --
    Skip Middleton
    http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com
     
    Skip M, Apr 9, 2004
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  6. How long does it take for a full charge?

    A "quick charger" is usually something that takes about 5 hours, and
    doesn't contain any electronics to detect when the batteries are fully
    charged. They are best discarded, or used as doorstops, not battery
    chargers. The problem is that the charge current is high enough to
    damage the batteries if they continue being charged after they reach
    full charge, but the charger can't tell when that happens.

    So, to properly use one of these chargers, you need to charge for the
    full time (in case the battery is empty), but then you have to fully
    discharge the battery before recharging (so you don't overcharge it).

    On the other hand, "fast" chargers usually take 3 hours or less. They
    have electronics to detect full charge, so you can recharge a battery in
    any state of charge. If the battery is already full, the charger will
    shut off in 10 minutes or so.

    And then there are trickle chargers that take 14 hours. These don't
    detect full charge, but their charge rate is so low that the batteries
    can tolerate overcharge for a while. These are better than "quick"
    chargers for the batteries.

    Dave
     
    Dave Martindale, Apr 9, 2004
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    Frank ess Guest

    The literature supplied in the kit instructs one to expect the blinking
    green light will stop blinking when charging is complete; which I
    interpret as meaning the machine senses charge level.

    Specifically, it says it will charge 3-4 of the supplied 2100 mAh AAs in
    240 min, 2 of the 750 mAh AAAs in 105 min.

    I think it is going to be all right.

    Thanks for the education.

    Frank S
     
    Frank ess, Apr 9, 2004
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  8. Sounds fine. Is it the BQ-390? I have one of those myself, and it has
    the additional advantage that it monitors each cell separately so it
    will charge just one, or any mixture of cells in any charge state.
    My only complaint is there's just one LED, rather than one per cell.

    Dave
     
    Dave Martindale, Apr 10, 2004
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    Frank ess Guest

    That's it. I just found another set to gift away.

    Hmmm... If I keep it that would mean I could charge one AA in each of
    four, one LED apiece.

    Hmmm...


    Frank ess
     
    Frank ess, Apr 10, 2004
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    John Navas Guest

    [POSTED TO rec.photo.digital - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

    In <c56o7p$adv$> on Fri, 9 Apr 2004 17:58:17 +0000 (UTC),
    Batteries can actually tolerate that rate of charge indefinitely.
     
    John Navas, Apr 10, 2004
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    Dave Cohen Guest

    The best buy money wise is a fast charger with 4 NiMH 2000's from Walmart
    for less than $17. Charger works well and has never taken as long as the
    claimed 3 hrs. Takes 2 or 4 cells, NiCD or NiMH, AA or AAA. Not as good as
    type that monitors each cell but plenty good enough. Also comes with auto
    cord.
    Dave Cohen

     
    Dave Cohen, Apr 10, 2004
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  12. I just checked a Canadian Costco (Burnaby BC). They don't have the
    Panasonic charger deal. Instead, they have the Sanyo NC-MQR02U plus
    4 2100 mAh AA cells for CDN$30. The Sanyo is nearly a clone of the
    Panasonic: monitors each cell individually, charges in 115 min for 2
    cells and 230 min for 4, operates from 100-240 V. It also has just one
    LED to indicate charging (boo hiss) like the Panasonic.

    But it has a couple advantages over the Panasonic: It will charge at a
    lower rate if it detects NiCd cells instead of NiMH; the Panasonic
    claims to be for NiMH only. The AAA slots are simply underneath the
    two middle AA positions, so you can charge two AAA and two AA at the
    same time if you want, or 1 AAA and 3 AA. The Panasonic's AAA slots
    block two AA positions each, so you can charge 2 AAA and no AA, or 1
    AAA and 2 AA.

    Of course, getting 4 AA isn't as good a deal as 6 AA and 2 AAA. But
    this is still half the price of the Panasonic charger plus 4 AA, which
    is still C$60 at Future Shop. And Costco had lots of them.

    Dave
     
    Dave Martindale, Apr 11, 2004
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    Frank ess Guest

    Sounds as if the Sanyo was a little better thought-out, as far as
    positioning the chargees.

    The Panasonic paperwork has two lines set apart from the specs:
    · Panasonic Ni-Cd batteries are also rechargeable.
    · Recharge times will vary with battery capacity and conditions.

    Pretty tentative, even obscure, if you ask me.

    Any road, I believe either would be a worthy investment for AA-AAA
    consumers.

    Frank
     
    Frank ess, Apr 11, 2004
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  14. Ah. So it *is* designed to charge NiCd as well. I'd missed that, since
    it lists only NiMH cells in the charging table. That makes the two even
    more alike than I'd suggested.
    Yes. I've generally found the moderate charge times to not be a
    problem. Yes, it takes 4 hours to recharge 4 AAs that are fully
    discharged, but I hardly ever get a set to that state in a day's use of
    digital camera or GPS receiver, so the recharge time is reduced
    accordingly.

    It's also very useful that both of these monitor individual cells. Most
    NiMH chargers, even fast chargers, charge pairs of cells or even 4 at
    once with a single monitoring circuit. This is fine when you actually
    have a set of 2 or 4 that are identical, and that were discharged
    together. But I have an MP3 player and a couple of flashlights that use
    a single AA or AAA cell, and need a one-cell-capable charger.

    Dave
     
    Dave Martindale, Apr 11, 2004
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