Death to Zoombrowser

Discussion in 'Digital SLR' started by rg46, May 16, 2006.

  1. rg46

    rg46 Guest

    I have a Canon digital rebel xt and have spent countless hours trying
    to download the camera pics to my pc. Sometimes the zoom browser works
    and sometimes not. If I reboot the computer it seems to work
    again....what a piece of junk. Anyone know how to get my pics onto my
    computer w/o that stupid ZB????????????????????? My other camera's are
    seen as a drive which makes it so nice.

    Thanks

    Rich Gilman
     
    rg46, May 16, 2006
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    Dave Guest

    I had similar problems with my Canon USB and Canon software.

    You might try this:

    Re-install the USB driver for the Canon camera.
    Un-install and re-install the Zoom Browser
    If the USB port doesn't find the camera, try another port.

    If all else fails, call Canon.
     
    Dave, May 16, 2006
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    C J Southern Guest

    Invest $5 in an external card reader.
     
    C J Southern, May 16, 2006
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    G.T. Guest

    Use a cardreader? Why use that crappy app in the first place?

    Greg
     
    G.T., May 16, 2006
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    Lionel Guest

    Which is what most of us do. It's faster & more reliable.
     
    Lionel, May 16, 2006
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    zog Guest

    piss it off, its useless, use a usb card reader, yeah I have no idea why
    Canon doesn't allow the camera to be seen as a device, probably so you
    are forced to use their crappy software.

    I use Picassa from google to d/load the photos, I don't give a stuff
    what anyone else thinks about, it works, it will scan the card, ask you
    for a directory name, it will d/load jpgs and raw files, I like it for
    the simple photo viewer, shows the photos the right way up and unlike ZB
    it doesn't alter the original files which ZB does do when you have
    photos taken in portrait mode, the ease of sending emails and creation
    of web pages, but I still use PS for the serious editing.
     
    zog, May 16, 2006
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    Mark B. Guest

    That's easy - get a card reader.

    Mark
     
    Mark B., May 16, 2006
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    DD Guest

    Picasa2 is one of the best pieces of software for organising digital
    photos I have come across in a long time. I wrote a review of it here:

    http://www.nikongear.com/ART_Picasa_review.htm

    And if you download it from my link I get $0.10c from Google. Whoopee.
     
    DD, May 16, 2006
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    Celcius Guest

    Rich,
    1- Uninstall Zoombrowser. It's crap.
    2- Be sure you have the WIA driver installed. You should be able to download
    from the "Scanner and camera wizard" - Windows.
    Personally, I'd rather download directly from my camera than playing around
    with the CF card. The inherent danger is to unalign a pin in the camera.
    my 2 cents
    Marcel
     
    Celcius, May 16, 2006
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    Mark B. Guest

    I'd rather risk the card than have the camera get knocked off the desk while
    it's being downloaded. There was a recent post on dpreview about just such
    a thing with a DSLR. I've been using card readers for years, never had a
    problem with a bent pin.

    Mark
     
    Mark B., May 17, 2006
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    DoN. Nichols Guest

    [ ... ]
    I have to agree. I actually plug the CF cards into a PCMCIA
    adaptor, so my (unix) computer can read it. The unix computer has no
    USB port -- though I could build one which did, using a box designed for
    Windows.

    However -- I also have two cats, and they are quite likely to
    pull a camera off any surface on which it is resting if there is a cable
    attached (a real cat toy, after all. :)

    If you insist on *never* unplugging the CF card from the camera,
    you doom yourself to the limit set by the size of your current CF card
    for a single shooting session. To my mind, they were made removable to
    allow you to upgrade as bigger CF cards come within affordability, and
    to swap cards to allow longer shooting sessions at higher resolution
    (ideally, RAW) than would be possible with a single CF card retained
    permanently in the camera.

    Consider, too, that downloading with the card in the camera puts
    an additional load on the battery, as well as immobilizing the camera
    for as long as it takes to download the current batch of shots.

    Consider -- I can download from two CF cards in a single setup,
    while I continue shooting with a third CF card -- if I *really* need to
    shoot that much at a time.

    I have read (here) of *one* case of a D70 camera's CF connector
    pins being damaged, by an unfamiliar user (the owner's wife), who put
    the CF card in rotated 90 degrees from the proper orientation. Anyone
    who takes the time to *look* at the access door of the camera will see a
    reminder of the proper orientation, and the feel of a CF card gives the
    proper orientation, with a ridge on the bottom side of the edge which
    should be out when you install the CF card. (Yes, the design could have
    been done so you can't insert it the wrong way around, by making it
    longer than it is wide. But only one such problem in all the people who
    use this newsgroup suggests that it should not be considered to be a
    significant problem.

    And plugging in a USB connector to a powered up computer allows
    for the possibility of damaging either the camera or the computer by
    electrostatic discharge. And -- it makes the camera potentially
    vulnerable to damage from a nearby lightning strike as long as it is
    connected to the computer.

    I guess that you might as well just put the camera in its box,
    add padding, and keep it in the closet, so it will never be likely to be
    damaged. :)

    Enjoy,
    DoN.
     
    DoN. Nichols, May 17, 2006
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    Celcius Guest

    The bent pin is in the camera, not on the card with CF's
    There was also a thread on this NG or a similar one (rec.photo.digital, I
    think) about being preferable not to toy with the card unecessarily.
    Marcel
     
    Celcius, May 17, 2006
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    Celcius Guest

    I agree. Bur one has to be careful ;-)
    Marcel
     
    Celcius, May 17, 2006
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  14. Hello Rich.

    I have a Sony Viao laptop running W2000 and ZoomBrowser works fine.
    Recognises the 350d, recognises my card reader, reads and writes as
    expected.

    I've tried to use my laptop with Nokia and Sony Ericsson software and had
    little success (Sony mostly works, Nokia doesn't work).
    I was expecting to find the same hassle with the Canon software but it works
    well.

    I'd suggest re-installing the software.

    Regards, Ian.
     
    Fred Anonymous, May 17, 2006
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  15. I have an Compaq Laptop that I use ZoomBrowser with.

    Works like a champ on my 5D and worked fine with my S2 IS.

    The only problem I had was leaving out one of the programs during
    installation when my 5D came in. A trip to the Canon site,
    downloading all the software and installing it and it works just fine.

    Camera or Card Reader....works.
     
    Scott in Florida, May 17, 2006
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    LabRat Guest

    Try disconnecting any other imaging devices you have hooked up via USB to
    the computer. I had a very similar problem after installing Photoshop
    Elements 4.0 on my computer. Before installing, I had no problems.
    Afterwards, my camera wasn't recognised by the computer and I could not
    download photos...which REALLY sucked since I had just received my 17-40mm L
    lens and had played around a lot with it! When I hooked up the camera via
    the USB and turned it on, I would get three quick 'dings' instead of the
    usual 'ding dong' when a USB device is connected. Under the device manager,
    the camera would show up with the yellow exclaination point indicating there
    was a problem. Uninstalling the Photoshop software did not solve the issue.
    I finally figured out that the conflict was between the camera and my slide
    scanner...unplugging the scanner allowed the camera to connect and download
    photos. Not sure why this only happened after installing Photoshop, but
    there you go!

    LabRat
     
    LabRat, May 18, 2006
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    DoN. Nichols Guest

    [ ... ]
    It is *also* in the card reader, FWIW.

    And the design of the CF card benefits from this, because the
    pins are not exposed to handling as they would be if the pins were in
    the CF card instead.

    The only thing wrong with the CF card's design is that the edge
    with the connector is wider than the two adjacent edges, so it is
    *possible* (but not reasonable) to put the card in rotated 90 degrees,
    and *that* can offer damage to the pins -- especially if you insist on
    pressing hard to try to get the card to seat. To me, the feel when
    inserted rotated 90 degrees is so obviously *wrong* that I would never
    actually bring it into contact with the connector pins.
    But what is "unnecessarily"? Unless you lock yourself into a
    single CF card, of a single size, you *have* to change the CF card
    occasionally. And you should have more experience with the proper
    handling of the CF cards and the camera's socket if you do change them
    regularly.

    Personally, I can't think of *any* reason for downloading from
    the camera instead of by moving the card to some form of card reader
    which I would consider to override the reasons to *not* do so.

    Even the thought of protecting card's slot from rain when
    changing them outdoors ignores the possibility of damage to the camera
    from rain getting into the USB connector instead. Of course, I come to
    this from a long life as an electronics technician, so I have no fear of
    connectors.

    Enjoy,
    DoN.
     
    DoN. Nichols, May 18, 2006
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    zog Guest

    on an older kodak camera I had it only took type 1 CF cards, the slot is
    narrower so you cannot put the card in wrong, it's only since the type2
    slots which are wider and do allow a type1 sized card to go in sideways
    if someone is silly enough not to look.

    also a friend bought a cheap harddrive case that allows d/loads from the
    cards, his wife managed to bend a pin on that, not because she put the
    card wrong, but the depth of the slot was only about half as deep as you
    would find it on a camera or card reader, so you have to be quite
    careful to put a card in this case.

    exactly, I only ever used a card reader for the last 5 years mainly
    because I use linux and the camera software didn't work, so a card
    reader was the only option, and as it turns out faster to transfer
    files, I don't know how many times I loaded and unloaded the cards from
    the card reader and cameras, sometimes I will just take 2-3 photos, pull
    the card, load it into the reader and email them, might do this 3-4
    times in one day, I have yet to bend a pin.
     
    zog, May 18, 2006
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    Ray Guest

    Also make sure the Still Image Service is running. When I first tried
    to download from the camera it wouldn't work; eventually I figured out
    that it was because I had disabled that service to save memory ages
    ago, and forgot to re-enable it when needed.
     
    Ray, May 18, 2006
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    Klamarth Guest

    When I connect my rebel xt to the usb, my winxp show it as a device. I
    don't have installed the ZB neither any soft from canon.

    But I always use a card reader to transfer pics.
     
    Klamarth, May 20, 2006
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