Delta 400, Tmax 400; Delta 100, Tmax 100, FP 125; plus Pan F 50

Discussion in 'Darkroom Developing and Printing' started by einst_stein, Jan 23, 2005.

  1. einst_stein

    einst_stein Guest

    I had quite a good time with Kodak Verichrome-pan 125 + PMK. I miss
    that since VP is discontinued. I like it with Rodinal 1+150+standing
    too.

    Now I'm back to the BW darkroom, after a not so successful wondering
    about the film scanner + digital printer. For various convenience
    reasons, I choose to stick with the Pyrocat-HD and high diluted rodinal
    + rare agitation.

    I have got a bunch of Tmax-400 and FP-125 as the media, but am was
    wondering if I missed other interesting films that I should not miss.

    For ISO-400 and pushable beyond that, anyone has expereince with Delta
    400 with either the PyrocatHD, or Rodinal that is significantly better
    than Tmax 400? In which sense?

    For ISO 100, same developers, anyone has experiences with both Delta
    100 and Tmax 100, and care to describe your observations?

    Last, I've read a lot praise about the Pan F 50, but have never seen
    and examples yet. The general observation is, it's far less popular
    than, say, FP-125. My impression is it's not really a fine grain film,
    even though a low ISO. It also seems lack of plausible tonal or
    gradation that worth to mension. Any reason that I should give it a
    try too? explain it please.

    I'd like to keep only two or sometihng films and get to know how to get
    the most of them. One should be ISO 400 and can be pushed, and one of
    ISO-100 or "low" speed. The film size I'm shooting is mostly 24mm x
    65mm, 6x6, and 6x7.
    The print size, previously was 8x10 ~ 11x14 for real, but now targeted
    to 8x20, 16x16, or 16x20.
     
    einst_stein, Jan 23, 2005
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    uraniumcommittee, Jan 24, 2005
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    Frank Pittel Guest

    wrote:
    : I had quite a good time with Kodak Verichrome-pan 125 + PMK. I miss
    : that since VP is discontinued. I like it with Rodinal 1+150+standing
    : too.

    : Now I'm back to the BW darkroom, after a not so successful wondering
    : about the film scanner + digital printer. For various convenience
    : reasons, I choose to stick with the Pyrocat-HD and high diluted rodinal
    : + rare agitation.

    Welcome back! :)

    : I have got a bunch of Tmax-400 and FP-125 as the media, but am was
    : wondering if I missed other interesting films that I should not miss.

    : For ISO-400 and pushable beyond that, anyone has expereince with Delta
    : 400 with either the PyrocatHD, or Rodinal that is significantly better
    : than Tmax 400? In which sense?

    : For ISO 100, same developers, anyone has experiences with both Delta
    : 100 and Tmax 100, and care to describe your observations?

    I'm partial to Tmax-100 developed in the Tmax developer (Tmax for roll
    and Tmax-rs for sheet) I use it diluted 1:9 one shot.

    Last spring I did some work with Delta-100 developed in Ilford's DDX.
    Again I diluted it 1:9 and used it one shot. On several occasions I
    photograped the same scene with both Tmax-100 and Delta-100 and looking
    at the prints I couldn't tell the difference

    : Last, I've read a lot praise about the Pan F 50, but have never seen
    : and examples yet. The general observation is, it's far less popular
    : than, say, FP-125. My impression is it's not really a fine grain film,
    : even though a low ISO. It also seems lack of plausible tonal or
    : gradation that worth to mension. Any reason that I should give it a
    : try too? explain it please.

    It's been discontinued so don't bother.

    : I'd like to keep only two or sometihng films and get to know how to get
    : the most of them. One should be ISO 400 and can be pushed, and one of
    : ISO-100 or "low" speed. The film size I'm shooting is mostly 24mm x
    : 65mm, 6x6, and 6x7.
    : The print size, previously was 8x10 ~ 11x14 for real, but now targeted
    : to 8x20, 16x16, or 16x20.


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    Frank Pittel, Jan 24, 2005
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    Mike King Guest

    As far as medium speed films go FP-4+, while not Verichrome Pan, is a very
    nice, user friendly film, TMax 100, Acros, APX are very much "new
    technology" films much finer grain but not as amiable more specialist than
    general purpose.

    I shoot black and white copywork on TMax 100 and everything else on TX and
    TXP all in 120 size. When I shoot 35mm black and white I use TMax 400, not
    because I love it but because someone gave me 4-100 ft rolls.

    Rather than push Delta 400 why not shoot Delta 3200, TMax 3200 or Fuji 1600?
    Rate them for normal usage 1250, 1000, 800 respectively and process in your
    soup of choice. Note that those EI's are more suitable to a high energy
    developer like Microphen, for Rodinal I'd be tempted to go more like 800,
    800, 640 and have no idea where to rate for Pyrocat-HD.
     
    Mike King, Jan 24, 2005
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    Timo Geusch Guest

    Frank Pittel was seen penning the following ode to ... whatever:
    Di you have a credible source for that? PanF Plus is still listed on
    the Ilford website, plus several other "rumour mills" quote Ilford
    employees stating that it's not being discontinued as the big K
    discontinued Tech Pan so there'd be enough of a market for PanF plus.

    I certainly can't see any supply problems as most of my usual film
    sources do have it in stock.
     
    Timo Geusch, Jan 25, 2005
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    Frank Pittel Guest

    : Frank Pittel was seen penning the following ode to ... whatever:
    : >: Last, I've read a lot praise about the Pan F 50, but have never seen
    : >: and examples yet. The general observation is, it's far less popular
    : >: than, say, FP-125. My impression is it's not really a fine grain film,
    : >: even though a low ISO. It also seems lack of plausible tonal or
    : >: gradation that worth to mension. Any reason that I should give it a
    : >: try too? explain it please.
    : >
    : > It's been discontinued so don't bother.

    : Di you have a credible source for that? PanF Plus is still listed on
    : the Ilford website, plus several other "rumour mills" quote Ilford
    : employees stating that it's not being discontinued as the big K
    : discontinued Tech Pan so there'd be enough of a market for PanF plus.

    All I have are conversations with people that have a depressing way of being right.

    : I certainly can't see any supply problems as most of my usual film
    : sources do have it in stock.
    : --
    : Timo Geusch
    : Photo pages: http://www.unixconsult.co.uk/photo-index.html


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    Frank Pittel, Jan 25, 2005
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