Developing Efke film with fx-1

Discussion in 'Darkroom Developing and Printing' started by Frank Pittel, Aug 10, 2005.

  1. Frank Pittel

    Frank Pittel Guest

    I've been thinking about getting a box or two of either Efke-25 or J&C-100
    to play around with. My thoughts for the developer is fx-1 from photographers
    formularly.

    Has anyone tried either of the films with FX-1? I'm also wondering how FX-1 would
    work with my Jobo. Anyone have any ideas?

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    Frank Pittel, Aug 10, 2005
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  2. Whoa huge amounts of contrast. The Efke 25 is a very contrast prone film
    & using it with PMK it was very very acute and lots of contrast.
     
    Gregory Blank, Aug 10, 2005
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  3. Frank Pittel

    Frank Pittel Guest

    : In article <>,

    : > I've been thinking about getting a box or two of either Efke-25 or J&C-100
    : > to play around with. My thoughts for the developer is fx-1 from photographers
    : > formularly.
    : >
    : > Has anyone tried either of the films with FX-1? I'm also wondering how FX-1
    : > would
    : > work with my Jobo. Anyone have any ideas?

    : Whoa huge amounts of contrast. The Efke 25 is a very contrast prone film
    : & using it with PMK it was very very acute and lots of contrast.

    I do of course expect to do film speed and development time testing. I also
    expect to use a 5 min prewash if I use it with my Jobo. If using the Jobo
    is a problem I could use my combiplan to process up to 6 sheets of film at
    a time.
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    Frank Pittel, Aug 10, 2005
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  4. The thing to bear in mind with FX-1, is that in the working strength
    developer, there is just 0.5 gram of Metol, 5 grams of Sodium Sulphite, 2.5
    grams of Sodium Carbonate (anhydrous) and 5 ml of a 0.001% solution of
    Potassium iodide per Litre so there may be a problem with the developer
    exhausting prematurely in the Jobo.
    The Combi-Plan would be the best option, but even with this, I would keep to
    just 4 sheets per tank load, otherwise you may find that you have negatives
    that are as flat as the proverbial pancake and are a pain to print.
     
    Keith Tapscott, Aug 10, 2005
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  5. Frank Pittel

    UC Guest

    Jobo?

    You're an idiot, Frank, an idiot.

    EVERYBODY knows that developers like FX-1 are ACUTANCE developers. This
    means GENTLE, INTERMITTENT agitation is called for. NO JOBO!
     
    UC, Aug 10, 2005
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  6. Your going to find out, the F-KEE is 25 asa. My experience with FX was
    such that it produced a lot of contrast in tray processing PXP sheets.
     
    Gregory Blank, Aug 11, 2005
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  7. I tried the Efke 25 and 50 films with R.Suzukis DS-12, something similar
    to the FX-1/Beutler formula. The results of my tests are found on

    http://www.jangowski.de/sensitometry/

    The Efke 25/50 works well with these thin metol-developers, you have to be
    careful with processing (especially with the 25), the contrast gets high
    quickly. I found no real difference in acutance between development in a
    Jobo ATL and careful semi-stand development (10s agitation every 2min),
    so I just spare me the waiting and put everything in the ATL.

    However, Delta 100 or Acros developed with DS-12 shows similar fine
    grain and at least the same sharpness as Efke 25 and are 1 1/2 stops
    faster. Additionally, they have _much_ better handling qualities, so I
    will stop using the Efke film when my stock is gone, as long as
    Ilford/Fuji films are available.

    YMMV, as usual.

    Martin
     
    Martin Jangowski, Aug 11, 2005
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  8. All I get is a parent directory.
     
    Gregory Blank, Aug 11, 2005
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  9. Frank Pittel

    UC Guest

    Yes, the Delta 100 and Neopan 100 are as good as these slower films
    without the hassles. No need for those slow films any more.
     
    UC, Aug 11, 2005
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  10. I`ve seen prints from Efke 25 and they`re O.K, personally I prefer Pan F
    Plus which is unfortunately not available in sheet film sizes. One
    photographer I know who uses 4x5, makes excellent prints from FP4 Plus
    souped in ID11 diluted 1+1, it`s hard to imagine them looking any sharper
    and the prints on 20x16 inch paper appear to be grainless.
     
    Keith Tapscott, Aug 11, 2005
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  11. Frank Pittel

    Frank Pittel Guest

    It looks like this is the approach that I'll take. I don't know if I'm going
    to like using 1liter per four sheets of film!! :-(



    : The thing to bear in mind with FX-1, is that in the working strength
    : developer, there is just 0.5 gram of Metol, 5 grams of Sodium Sulphite, 2.5
    : grams of Sodium Carbonate (anhydrous) and 5 ml of a 0.001% solution of
    : Potassium iodide per Litre so there may be a problem with the developer
    : exhausting prematurely in the Jobo.
    : The Combi-Plan would be the best option, but even with this, I would keep to
    : just 4 sheets per tank load, otherwise you may find that you have negatives
    : that are as flat as the proverbial pancake and are a pain to print.
    : > I do of course expect to do film speed and development time testing. I
    : > also
    : > expect to use a 5 min prewash if I use it with my Jobo. If using the Jobo
    : > is a problem I could use my combiplan to process up to 6 sheets of film at
    : > a time.
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    : >
    : >
    : >
    : >
    : > -------------------
    : > Keep working millions on welfare depend on you



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    Frank Pittel, Aug 12, 2005
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  12. Frank Pittel

    Frank Pittel Guest

    : > I've been thinking about getting a box or two of either Efke-25 or J&C-100
    : > to play around with. My thoughts for the developer is fx-1 from photographers
    : > formularly.

    : > Has anyone tried either of the films with FX-1? I'm also wondering how FX-1 would
    : > work with my Jobo. Anyone have any ideas?

    : I tried the Efke 25 and 50 films with R.Suzukis DS-12, something similar
    : to the FX-1/Beutler formula. The results of my tests are found on

    : http://www.jangowski.de/sensitometry/

    : The Efke 25/50 works well with these thin metol-developers, you have to be
    : careful with processing (especially with the 25), the contrast gets high
    : quickly. I found no real difference in acutance between development in a
    : Jobo ATL and careful semi-stand development (10s agitation every 2min),
    : so I just spare me the waiting and put everything in the ATL.

    : However, Delta 100 or Acros developed with DS-12 shows similar fine
    : grain and at least the same sharpness as Efke 25 and are 1 1/2 stops
    : faster. Additionally, they have _much_ better handling qualities, so I
    : will stop using the Efke film when my stock is gone, as long as
    : Ilford/Fuji films are available.


    This going to mostly be an experiment. Unless I get spectacular results I'll
    be sticking with Tmmax-100. I tried Delta-100 and got good results with it.
    There are enough advantages to Tmax-100 that I stuck with it.
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    Frank Pittel, Aug 12, 2005
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    Martin Jangowski, Aug 12, 2005
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