Differences between Fuji slide films?

Discussion in 'Fuji' started by Andrew Koenig, Jun 28, 2004.

  1. Fuji makes four different ISO 100 slide films: Astia, Provia, Sensia, and
    Velvia. What's the difference between them? I know that Velvia is designed
    to give lots of saturation, but what about the others? I am guessing that
    Provia is a general-purpose professional film, Astia is optimized for
    portraits, and Sensia is a consumer film--but I am hoping that someone who
    knows will tell me.
     
    Andrew Koenig, Jun 28, 2004
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  2. Andrew Koenig

    Alan Browne Guest

    You've got the broad-brush idea...

    All, except the Sensia, are considered professional film;
    certainly the price point is higher for all but the Sensia.

    Sensia 100 (old) and Astia 100 (old) are the same film.
    Sensia 100F (new) and Astia 100F (new), I believe are the same
    film (I can't find the tech sheet for the new Sensia in order to
    confirm). Some people report slight color differences between
    Sensia and Astia, this may be due to the aging/ripening of the
    film, different lots or simply the color difference is subjective
    error.

    (Sensia is distributed as consumer film and not temperature
    controlled; Astia is distributed and stocked in refrigerated
    conditions.)

    Sensia/Astia are neutral color films which give pleasing skin
    tones (as you alude above), but can be used as a general purpose
    film where a natural looking color is desired.

    Velvia 100F is a faster, slightly less saturated film (v. Velvia
    classic). I like it so far, will be shooting a lot of it in July
    I expect.

    Provia is a higher contrast, high definition film, slightly more
    saturated, slightly narrower latitude v. Sensia/Astia. It is,
    for lack of a better descrption, a general purpose professional
    film. (Fuji describe it as an outdoor, product, fashion and
    portraiture film).

    Cheers,
    Alan
     
    Alan Browne, Jun 28, 2004
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    Bandicoot Guest

    Also, Provia has a rather cool colour palette which suits some subjects, but
    not all. Cool, yet bright, if that makes sense.

    Since Velvia 100F came out I find I don't use Provia very often outdoors -
    though I would use it for fashion - but it is still one of my favourite
    films for studio still-life under flash.


    Peter
     
    Bandicoot, Jun 28, 2004
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  4. Andrew Koenig

    Alan Browne Guest

    Thanks for the addendum. I have had less than admirable results
    (natural light and flash) with Provia... gotta try it some more.

    Cheers,
    Alan.
     
    Alan Browne, Jun 28, 2004
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  5. Andrew Koenig

    Bandicoot Guest

    I have found it is a good film for some things, but while I know people who
    like it as an 'all round' film, for me it isn't: it is very good in some
    situations, but others I just can't seem to get it to excel in.

    Provia is one of the least contrasty slide films I know, which has its uses,
    but it can't be used to tame contrasty subjects because its own range isn't
    that wide. I like it for the sort of thing where subtle gradation within a
    fairly narrow palette is in order: which for me mostly means studio
    still-life under flash (with the main light probably a softbox) or under
    very diffuse window-light. It's a good city-scape film (not for where
    saturated colours are needed though) and - surprisingly, perhaps - I've
    found it rather good for night scenes.



    Peter
     
    Bandicoot, Jun 29, 2004
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  6. Andrew Koenig

    ThomasH Guest

    Are you really sure of that? For once, the "color" of
    undeveloped film was so different on these too. Also,
    the film charactertistics as published by Fujifilm on
    their webpage differ.
    http://fujifilm.com/JSP/fuji/epartners/bin/sensia100_1.pdf

    Albeit, I see now that you mention "a new Sensia 100F."
    I never heard of such film... Could you point to a reference
    of its existence?

    Thomas
     
    ThomasH, Jul 3, 2004
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  7. Andrew Koenig

    TP Guest


    It doesn't exist. Perhaps Alan Browne should have established
    that before giving yet more of his spurious "advice".
     
    TP, Jul 3, 2004
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  8. Andrew Koenig

    Alan Browne Guest

    RA and RAP (old) data sheets are identical in all respects (the
    old versions of Sensia and Astia). I'll e-mail them to you if
    you like. Even the various graphs have the same artwork
    identifier numbers in them.
    I wish I could. I've seen reference to it, but can't find it on
    the Fuji sites (US/Europe). But I'm sure I have seen it...
    somewhere. Maybe a figment of my imagination!
     
    Alan Browne, Jul 3, 2004
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  9. Andrew Koenig

    Pickle Guest

    I'm not surprised you find Provia good for night scenes, as one of its
    strengths is its good reciprocity characteristics under long
    exposures. I don't know about Provia 100, but Provia 400 will stand a
    good deal of push-processing (Fuji claim up to ISO 3200), so it is my
    first choice for night-sky photography.

    Mark
     
    Pickle, Jul 3, 2004
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  10. Andrew Koenig

    Alan Browne Guest

    As stated in my other post possibly a figment of my imagination.

    I knew I had seen it somewhere, and among these are probably where:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?U2A1127B8

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?W591327B8 a

    http://www.fotocinecolor.com/catalogo/lista2.php

    http://www.shutterbug.net/test_reports/0802sb_pentax/

    http://www.fotokritik.dk/?x=/kritik.html_pic=66251

    http://www.mail-archive.com//msg146814.html

    So either it exists somewhere, or many people are having the same
    hallucination I am, or simply making an error.

    Cheers,
    Alan
     
    Alan Browne, Jul 3, 2004
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  11. Andrew Koenig

    TP Guest

    Shutterbug, the fount of all truth and accuracy? Error.
    You're making the same error (or having the same hallucination) as the
    others above. Sensia 100F does not exist, at least not in Japan, the
    USA, the UK, Germany and France.

    It is hardly surprising that, when FujiFilm make Astia 100F, Provia
    100F and Astia 100F, some people will assume that Sensia 100 simply
    *must* have an F at the end.

    Maybe one day it will ... but not today.
     
    TP, Jul 4, 2004
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