Digital Black and White Photos

Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by Jeff Alu, Jan 7, 2004.

  1. Jeff Alu

    Jeff Alu Guest

    Please stop by and check out my black and white photo gallery, all shots
    taken with Kodak DC280 and Minolta DImage F300 Cameras, processed in
    Photoshop:

    http://www.animalu.com/pics/photos.htm

    Hope you enjoy,

    Jeff Alu
     
    Jeff Alu, Jan 7, 2004
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  2. Hey, Jeff, so your photo and quotes in the UK magazine "Digital
    Photographer" (issue 15) all about B&W photography.

    You may or may not remember my South America shots from a couple of
    years ago, but recently I've been trying to get that B&W mindset.
    This is from last month...

    http://www.metalvortex.com/myphotos/morocco/dunes_of_tinfou.htm

    (the web server is a bit dodgy at the moment so you may have to
    re-try several times)

    Unfortunately I didn't have a tripod with me...was forced to open up
    to f2.8 because of low light. Would have preferred f22 but I was
    hoping that the wide-angle lens might let me get away with depth of
    field at f2.8.

    I'm quite please with the shot and I think that I'll continue with
    trying to get that B&W mindset...looks promising!

    Regards,

    --
    Kulvinder Singh Matharu
    Contact details : http://www.metalvortex.com/form/form.htm
    Website : http://www.metalvortex.com/

    "It ain't Coca Cola, it's rice" - The Clash
     
    Kulvinder Singh Matharu, Jan 8, 2004
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  3. Jeff Alu

    Michael Guest

    Hi,
    Very nice - tell us a bit about your Photoshop workflow. What is your
    experience with b/w filters?

    /Michael
     
    Michael, Jan 9, 2004
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  4. Jeff Alu

    Jeff Alu Guest

    Hi Kulvinder, great work! That is a beautiful shot, love this one also:

    http://www.metalvortex.com/myphotos/morocco/kasbah_taourirt_-_2.htm

    You have a huge selection of photos, I'm going to enjoy browsing them
    Looking forward to seeing more of my BW shots...Please let me know when you
    have more!

    btw, I never have a tripod with me, gets in the way :)

    Jeff
     
    Jeff Alu, Jan 9, 2004
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  5. Jeff Alu

    Jeff Alu Guest

    Hi Michael, I don't use any filters at all...my workflow is just to bring a
    color image into photoshop, convert to BW via the channel Mixer, dodge and
    burn using the dodge and burn brush, add some unsharp mask, thanks that's
    about it. Here is a (slightly) more detailed description of my process:

    http://www.animalu.com/pics/process.htm

    Jeff
     
    Jeff Alu, Jan 9, 2004
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  6. Jeff Alu

    Michael Guest

    Hi,
    Actually I meant Photoshop filters :)

    Creating a realistic, "film-like" b/w shot is not as easy as it sounds.
    Simply averaging the rgb values and mapping that onto a gray scale from
    black to white in a linear fashion will not always give good results.
    Special filters (plugins - whatever) for Photoshop exist that help you
    obtain the best results, and I was wondering if you were using something
    like that.
    Well, using dodge and burn gives some very dramatic results I must say -
    very effective. I'll play around with that and see if I can breathe new life
    into some of those thousands of photos I have from my trusty old DC290.

    /Michael
     
    Michael, Jan 9, 2004
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  7. Thanks, I'm just going through my shots and using Channel Mixer in
    layers, and also Selective Color in layers to change the saturation
    of different colours to show the final BW image. Still haven't quite
    mastered Dodge & Burn.

    I've been trying to add "grain" and "noise" using different methods
    (including using USM) but I can't quite get the effect that I want.
    You photos are quite "gritty" and dramatic and I quite like that. I'm
    trying to get a similar "gritty" fell but less "dramatic" look but
    can't quite manage it...yet!
    Sure! Your photo that was in that magazine (shack in the middle of
    the desert?)...where was that taken? Out of interest, what size file
    (in pixel dimensions) did you supply the magazine as they've shown it
    at just over A4 in size and it looks pretty good.
    I've got two now...just bought a tiny one that is ultra-portable so I
    can just chuck it in my back-pack when travelling. It is surprisingly
    steady holding my camera with the large lenses! Best buy I've made in
    months!

    I suppose with your shots with all that contrast and "grit" that a
    high ISO film like 400 or above wouldn't be a handicap and which
    would help in low light conditions.

    --
    Kulvinder Singh Matharu
    Contact details : http://www.metalvortex.com/form/form.htm
    Website : http://www.metalvortex.com/

    "It ain't Coca Cola, it's rice" - The Clash
     
    Kulvinder Singh Matharu, Jan 10, 2004
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  8. Jeff Alu

    Jeff Alu Guest

    Ah! sorry :)
    Yeah, I have not found a filter yet (except for the unsharp mask, which
    I use to enhance the overall intensity of the image) which I can apply in a
    linear fashion and an be happy with the results. For me, the best way is to
    get in there and play with the image using the dodge and burn brush.
    Yes, I think one of the great things about the dodge and burn brush are
    its imperfections. It is not a "smooth" brush, and the roughness of it adds
    to the drama I think. Be sure to play with the range settings (highlights,
    midtones, shadows) as you get much more control this way. Actually I never
    use the midtones setting, only highlights for brightening the lighter areas,
    and shadows for darkening the darker areas. So it's really just stretching
    the contrast, but only in certain areas.


    Jeff
     
    Jeff Alu, Jan 10, 2004
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