Digital camera with GPS capability

Discussion in 'UK Photography' started by aniramca, Oct 23, 2007.

  1. aniramca

    aniramca Guest

    During my recent trip in the wilderness, our corporate sponsor
    organization brought a digital camera which is equipped with GPS
    insert. Each photos will have the coordinates of the location where
    it was taken, and is shown at the bottom of each picture. The camera
    is a Caplio Ricoh Pro G3. I think the camera is a few years old, as I
    recall that it was also available during my previous trips. However, I
    could not find this particular camera model in the web. They have
    shown the G3, but I wonder about the difference between them (Pro G#
    vs. G3). I also recall that the new Ricoh 500SE is GPS ready. I also
    heard about the new Pentax Optio WPi, which can also be used to record
    GPS.
    What about other brand name cameras, such as Nikon and Canon? Do they
    all have the capabilities to receive coordinate data from a GPS
    transmitter nearby (via blue tooth or infra red), or in the case of
    Caplio Pro G3, it was some kind of GPS card receiver inserted directly
    in the special chamber in the camera. Anyone knows whether other
    professional digital cameras have this capability?
    Thanks for info.
     
    aniramca, Oct 23, 2007
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  2. aniramca

    Sosumi Guest

    Nikon has several. The new D3 also has it. Canon also, I think. Cheaper to
    buy a seperate GPS, look and note the coordinates and presto! Saves you a
    few thousand ;-)))
     
    Sosumi, Oct 23, 2007
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  3. aniramca

    Pat Guest

    I haven't searched for one lately, but such cameras are pretty
    standard in real estate appraisal, real estate assesment, GIS and
    related industries. Search in that area and you should find a few.

    Also, most also have the capability to know what direction you are
    facing and the angle. It doesn't just say "you are here" but it also
    says "you are looking that-a-way".
     
    Pat, Oct 23, 2007
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  4. aniramca

    Mr. Strat Guest

    Just what digital cameras need - another useless feature.
     
    Mr. Strat, Oct 23, 2007
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  5. aniramca

    aniramca Guest

    Whether you like it or not, the future will include embedded GPS in
    every photos, so that they can be mapped individually to create a 3D
    space. I am not sure if you are a fan of Microsoft, but check their
    futuristic plan for 3D digital photo application in photosynth at
    http://labs.live.com/photosynth
    Someone in our office showed that application to us the other day, and
    you can show a 3D image of a site (example - a mining site or a
    proposed airport, or a dam), and each of the photos taken in the area
    will be part of a mosaic of photos taken at the various coordinates
    within that 3D view of the site. At least this will be the future
    direction where MS wants us to explore in term of digital photography.
    It can be a collection of your own photos taken in various part of the
    city where you live, or various place around the globe where you
    travelled. I assume, that instead storing the photos in a folder (1
    dimension) in a computer, you store them in a virtual world storage
    space called "earth" or "name of City", or "name of project", and they
    are all stored in the right coordinates (3D).
     
    aniramca, Oct 23, 2007
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  6. You don't want GPS builtin. Why? Because it is going to be mediocre at best.
    It isn't an overly useful function if it takes 3 or 4 minutes for it to find
    the salellites, It also isn't very useful if it keeps loosing those
    satellites. You want something that is going to work and work well you want
    to invest in a good GPS system one that connects fast and can remain
    connected even under trees, unvalleies, in cities with buildings all around,
    etc. Just make sure that it can export the waypoint data and then you take
    that with one of the many free or for cost programs that will take that data
    compare the information to your photos and then embedd the data in to the
    images.

    Any camera that has GPS built-in is going to have a really poor one. Besides
    there aren't that many, three that I know of two are now obsolete and were
    Richo which I wouldn't touch with someone elses hand. The third one I don't
    know what brand it was. It might have been a nikon or something.

    The Spider
     
    The Spider Formally Seated Next To Little Miss Muf, Oct 23, 2007
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  7. Nikon's higher models, such as the D200/D300 and the
    D2/D3 series, can be connected to standard Garmin or
    Magellen GPS via an adaptor (MC-35) that plugs into the
    10-pin connector used also for remote shutter release.
     
    Floyd L. Davidson, Oct 23, 2007
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  8. That's a matter of opinion. Having spent quite a few days working out
    the grid references for upwards of 15,000 aerial photos, I could really
    use a GPS system that worked well. Trouble is, none that I've seen can
    accurately locate the subject area as opposed to the camera's position
    which may be half a mile away.
    http://www.pixaerial.com
     
    Willy Eckerslyke, Oct 23, 2007
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  9. e.g. http://code.google.com/p/gpicsync/

    Of course, I doubt any add-on GPS/software can tell what you are focussing
    on in relation to the camera position.


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  10. aniramca

    Ron Hunter Guest

    That seems to be essential to the purpose. One of the serious faults of
    most low cost GPS receivers is the lack of a compass feature.
     
    Ron Hunter, Oct 23, 2007
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  11. aniramca

    Ron Hunter Guest

    Useless? To YOU maybe. I am sure that if you use your camera in a
    studio, or your home, this isn't a feature you would want to pay for.
    However, for MY purposes, it would be a very valuable feature.
    You aren't the only person in the world you know.
     
    Ron Hunter, Oct 23, 2007
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  12. aniramca

    Ron Hunter Guest

    Half a mile! You REALLY need a better GPS. Mine is usually accurate to
    a few feet!
    If I go on a trip, and return home, it won't go to 00 until I actually
    put the car under the carport. Leaving it in the driveway (20 feet)
    won't do.
     
    Ron Hunter, Oct 23, 2007
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  13. aniramca

    ASAAR Guest

    <whoosh!>
    If you're in your carport and take a picture of an object half a
    mile away (with a GPS enabled camera), does the "00" refer to the
    position of the camera or the position of the object? Now if you're
    using a camera that records the direction that the camera was
    pointing, and that can also record the subject's distance in the
    EXIF data, I suppose that the subject/object location can be
    determined with a trig. calculator. Not with a great deal of
    accuracy, but to a better resolution than half a mile.
     
    ASAAR, Oct 23, 2007
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  14. aniramca

    Pat Guest

    Some of the real estate cameras have the capability to show the
    direction the camera is pointed and the angle. It won't directly show
    the location of the object, but with a GIS system and a little
    math ....
     
    Pat, Oct 23, 2007
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  15. Yes! Quick - patent it!!

    GPS position + direction of camera orientation + focussing distance, all
    in EXIF. How did we manage without?

    Mike

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    Michael J Davis, Oct 23, 2007
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  16. aniramca

    Mr. Strat Guest

    I do a wide variety of photography. But having coordinates of where I
    created an image is about as useful as shutter speed/f-stop
    information.
     
    Mr. Strat, Oct 23, 2007
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  17. aniramca

    Guest Guest

    did you miss the part where he said 'aerial photos' ? unless the
    camera is aimed straight down, the position of the camera (in the
    plane) is only a very rough guide as to what is in the actual picture.
     
    Guest, Oct 23, 2007
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  18. aniramca

    Jose Marques Guest

    Nikon D200, D2-series etc. have GPS support. An optional (MC-35) cable
    will connect to serial interface Garmin and other brand GPS.

    A dedicated GPS is available from a third party:

    <http://di-gps.com/di-GPS/n2.htm>

    This fits in the hot-shoe or on the strap. a review is available here:

    <http://www.naturfotograf.com/GPS_review.html>

    I personally use a stand-alone GPS unit (not connected to the camera)
    then merge the information after the fact using GPSPhotoLinker on a
    Mac. See:

    <http://oregonstate.edu/~earlyj/gpsphotolinker/>

    this matches position to image based on the time the image was taken
    and interpolating track information from the GPS.
     
    Jose Marques, Oct 23, 2007
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  19. That is not built-in GPS. But, given that built-in is going to be pretty bad
    I think that is probably a brilliant way to handle it. This way you don't
    pay for a crappy feature especially if you don't want GPS.

    The Spider
     
    The Spider Formally Seated Next To Little Miss Muf, Oct 23, 2007
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  20. I knowing what the picture is matters when it comes to being able to show
    where you took the picture on a map because?

    The Spider
     
    The Spider Formally Seated Next To Little Miss Muf, Oct 23, 2007
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