digital jukebox

Discussion in 'Video Cameras' started by Streamer, Aug 1, 2006.

  1. Streamer

    Streamer Guest

    what software is available to record movies, clips, homevideos, etc and
    store them so i can share with friends and family across the internet?
     
    Streamer, Aug 1, 2006
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  2. Probably Orb is what you're looking for : http://www.orb.com/

    Cheers - Neil
     
    Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media], Aug 1, 2006
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  3. Streamer

    Streamer Guest

    Thanks Neil,
    Orb looks impressive, may be not so friendly for offline content.
    How many people do you know who have created a simple user interface for the
    WME engine?
    Cheers
    Marc
     
    Streamer, Aug 2, 2006
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  4. Streamer

    Tony Morgan Guest

    "Streamer" isn't too clear as to what he actually wants, for instance:

    "Record movies": from what, to what?

    Is he talking about duping DVDs, or downloading (pirating) from the
    Internet, or from broadcast TV. "Clips"? - Again from what to what, or
    does he means extracting clips from movies, homevideos etc?

    Sharing movies (and clips/homemovies) across the Internet is fraught
    with problems - simply because of the large filesize of digital media.
    There are ways of doing this but to have the assurance of complete and
    error-free transfer the only one that I know that works requires some
    preparatory work, and some work in your "family and fried's" assembling
    them. And does he want to share them through e-mail, webspace (through
    webpages), FTP, or binary. newsgroup?

    "Storing them" suggests to me that Streamer means on hard disk - which
    unfortunately rapidly fills his hard disk if he's talking movies and
    home videos. Anyway, (diskspace apart) building folders in a structured
    way avoids investment in good software to do this through indexing,

    Streamer now mentions "WME Engine" but I'm not quite sure what he's
    talking about in this context (I hate people using mnemonics - when the
    context doesn't make clear what is being talked about). Or is Streamer
    talking, perhaps, about XP Media (Centre) Edition (usually referred to
    as MCE)?

    Sorry if this all sounds a bit negative - but any solution(s) require
    clarity about just what someone is trying to achieve.

    Also, sorry Neil that I've had to remove your input - but that's the
    effect when someone hasn't yet learned how to bottom-post.
     
    Tony Morgan, Aug 2, 2006
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  5. Only me I'm afraid, assuming you're referring to the windows media
    encoder ActiveX object ... the site never went fully live due to
    ongoing resource constraints and general interference by having to
    work for a living ;-)

    You're right of course.


    Not necessarily as long as they're encoded with that audience in mind
    - lower resolution eg 320x240, and less than 350kbps bitrate, even
    lower if they have to do *multiple* unicast streams, since most
    people's outgoing bandwidth is way lower (250-500kbps) than their
    incomiong bandwidth on ADSL


    No, you can archive while encoding, reducing the requirements from raw
    video storage to about 1-5% of an uncompressed AVI stream.

    As above, tend to agree that it should have been spelled out unless
    the newsgroup was specifically microsoft.public.windowsmedia.encoder


    Not at all, I'll consider that trolling since as you can see I tend to
    use the most appropriate posting method depending on context and
    length of irrelevant information.

    Cheers - Neil
     
    Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media], Aug 2, 2006
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  6. Streamer

    Streamer Guest

    Easy tiger, i was trying to get discussion and find direction starting from
    a general post. I agree the reply to Neil was too specific and out of
    context (knowing he'd understand).

    You seem to be focused on the technical aspect, as i'm trying to be
    practical as from an ordinary user's perspective. Indeed a 'digital jukebox'
    as the term suggests can pose serious technical challanges. But at this
    stage of the post it almost seems too premature to detail memory management
    and transportation technicalities. Again, just an introduction, don't scare
    me away like that.
     
    Streamer, Aug 2, 2006
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  7. Streamer

    Streamer Guest

    Understand totally, could we take this up somewhere more appropriate?
    ms.pub.wm.enc list 31/7/06
     
    Streamer, Aug 2, 2006
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  8. There, you were asking for an opinion, here you're asking for details
    of how to do it ? Or how many people have done it ?

    I didn't answer over there cause the question was framed without
    reference to the capabilities or aim of the project, and since I'm on
    about 4 technical betas time gets kinda short ;-))


    Cheers - Neil
     
    Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media], Aug 3, 2006
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  9. Streamer

    Tony Morgan Guest

    Quite the opposite. I'm considering the PRACTICAL issues, and I do
    recognise my own limitations in looking at the technical aspects.
    NO !!! Practical issues that can only be solved by technical solutions
    which (in this context) are a long time away for us mere mortals who
    don't have access to fast satellite links.
    And I did that? I don't recollect even mentioning memory management. If
    by "transportation technicalities" you're referring to the PRACTICAL
    problem of video media distribution they you're barking right up the
    wrong tree :)
    As soon as you get the barest clue, you will learn that there's
    inevitably a trade-off between quality/picture size and filesize. And
    this affects disk storage capacity (you have to store it somewhere to be
    able to distribute it). It also imposes severe limitations on media
    distribution - even in these days of terrestial broadband.

    These are PRACTICAL issues.
     
    Tony Morgan, Aug 4, 2006
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