digital video recorder that records directly from tv set a/v output?

Discussion in 'Amateur Video Production' started by aaronep, Jul 29, 2005.

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    aaronep Guest

    Is there a device marketed that will download output from a tv set
    directly onto a hard drive without needing a separate computer?

    I see ads for TiVo and RePlay and also pci cards that fit into
    computers, but I am seeking, if available, a device that would obviate
    the need for a standard computer and also obviate the need to subscribe
    to monthly services.

    All replies welcomed! Aaron in N. Hollywood
    aaronep, Jul 29, 2005
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  2. aaronep wrote...
    Standalone devices like TiVo and RePlay, certainly
    "obviate the need for a standard computer" but they likely
    do not use AVI.

    OTOH, if yo want AVI, you likely don't have any choice
    but to use a computer in some capacity.

    I believe that is the "state of the art" at this point.
    Likely we will hear a rebuttal if I am not up to date!
    Richard Crowley, Jul 29, 2005
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    RS Guest

    I believe many of todays DVD recorders are also equiped with hard drives.
    RS, Jul 29, 2005
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    aaronep Guest

    Dear Richard: thank you for your quick reply! I do not wish a TiVo or
    a RePlay device because I must pay for a subscription to use the

    Are there any devices that perform the same tasks without needing to
    pay for "subscription"? My old fashion VCR does not need a
    subscription and it does have a timer which I can set for recording
    when not at home.

    Again, my question is whether or not there is a device that would
    perform like a VCR but record onto a hard drive and not a tape or dvd
    disk that does NOT require subscription.

    best, Aaron
    aaronep, Jul 30, 2005
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    DeepOne Guest

    If you want something that operates like a VCR, then I would suggest a
    Pioneer DVR-520H. It has an 80GB hard drive which you can use for
    time shifting, and it contains a DVD writer which you can use if you
    want to keep something you've recorded on the hard drive (or transport
    it elsewhere). It requires no subscription service or phone line
    connection; it just uses timer settings like a VCR.
    DeepOne, Jul 30, 2005
  6. The TV tuner boards available for PCs have all the functionality
    of TiVo without any subscription fees, also.
    Richard Crowley, Jul 30, 2005
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    Alpha Guest

    There are hundreds of recorders that do this.
    Alpha, Jul 30, 2005
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    Ken Maltby Guest


    Ken Maltby, Jul 31, 2005
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    Ken Maltby Guest


    Ken Maltby, Jul 31, 2005
  10. There are DVD recorders with hard drives, some of which use
    the Gemstar TV Guide menu system which is free over-the-air.
    Look for example at the Panasonic DMR-EH50. I have one and
    love it, but it occasionally fails to record a scheduled program.
    I hope this will be fixed with a firmware update at some point.
    L David Matheny, Aug 11, 2005
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    GaryP Guest

    Hmm, any idea when and why the DMR-EH50 fails to record some schedule times?
    I received a unit two days ago and have had it skip the same show both days.
    Most other test recordings have been okay, just one show scheduled the first
    day by manually entering the time and channel, and the second day the show
    selected off the TVGOS method (after it successfully downloaded) were
    skipped. I did have one other scheduled recording fail to start until I
    manually turned on the unit with the remote, at which time it started

    So far I like this model but having it occasionally fail to record with no
    sure workaround isn't acceptable and it will have to go back if there is no
    clear understanding of why and at least a good workaround. Until I read
    this post, I thought it was something I was doing wrong, but now I'm not so
    GaryP, Aug 12, 2005
  12. I haven't found any pattern that suggests a work-around. I think it's
    probably a firmware bug in the code that watches for and/or downloads
    the TVGOS guide data. As you say, if you turn the unit on it will see that
    it should be recording and record the remainder of the scheduled show.
    If you leave it on it won't miss anything, but of course you can't do that
    all the time since it has to be off to download the guide data.

    I called Panasonic customer care at 1-800-211-PANA. They weren't
    much help, but maybe if you (and any others with the same problem)
    call too, they will be moved to action. I've been swamped lately and
    didn't have a chance to take the unit back within the 30-day return
    period, so I'm now at the mercy of warranty service unless they can
    fix it with a firmware update (which I think should be possible).
    L David Matheny, Aug 12, 2005
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